Do you want Campbell gone?

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Only that he says it 24/7. Its true, but I also don't hear the coaches at Kansas, Duke, or Fitzgerald at Northwestern non stop talk about how hard it was to win at these places.

I could care less about his temper or "trust the process" etc. Iowa State's not a Victoria's Secret model in terms of football programs or playboy centerfold. No agreeing that.

But it'd be nice to not be told we have to have a steak around a chain for the dog to play with us
I think he says it because our fanbase has shown to be pretty stupid, or at least a faction of it who seriously wanted him fired for the past couple of years after bringing the most successful season ever to ISU football in 2020. It is hard to win here and people need to remember that. Doesn’t mean we and the coaches shouldn’t expect more because we should. But not consistently winning 8 or more games with a true round Robin schedule since the Fiesta Bowl (schedule now more chances to avoid the best teams) is not a reason to turn on Campbell. It sucks 2021 didn’t go the way we thought it would and had he and team delivered another 9-win season at least then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
 
Only that he says it 24/7. Its true, but I also don't hear the coaches at Kansas, Duke, or Fitzgerald at Northwestern non stop talk about how hard it was to win at these places.

I could care less about his temper or "trust the process" etc. Iowa State's not a Victoria's Secret model in terms of football programs or playboy centerfold. No agreeing that.

But it'd be nice to not be told we have to have a steak around a chain for the dog to play with us

You don’t listen to those coaches every week, so you have no idea if or how often they are saying stuff like that.
 
Ok, I'll bite - what disrespect? I've seen none.

Are you offended by the "we are Iowa State and will have to do things differently" mentality?

He’s doubling down on this. Crazy.
 
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I think he says it because our fanbase has shown to be pretty stupid, or at least a faction of it who seriously wanted him fired for the past couple of years after bringing the most successful season ever to ISU football in 2020. It is hard to win here and people need to remember that. Doesn’t mean we and the coaches shouldn’t expect more because we should. But not consistently winning 8 or more games with a true round Robin schedule since the Fiesta Bowl (schedule now more chances to avoid the best teams) is not a reason to turn on Campbell. It sucks 2021 didn’t go the way we thought it would and had he and team delivered another 9-win season at least then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
I don't know if it was stupid so much as a fanbase that thought - hoped, believed, whatever word you want to use -

that we were maybe finally going to be a team that won 7-8 games annually (including the bowl game) At least, that's where I was at and once in a very rare while, have a chance at 9, maybe even if everything aligned in a perfect way, 10 (including a bowl game).

10-3 or 9-4 for me is the absolute high water mark. Maybe one day we'll do better but I think that's realistic.

My issue has never been just a losing season. My issue was the stubbornness to accept the need to change. IMO, had we played like we are now, vs. Ohio, we win. Don't know about Iowa, so I won't even bring that one up. But I think we beat Ohio. And there were games last year I think at times was the same and he even admitted it.

And like I said, that's all I needed to see. I was beginning to wonder if he was going to be a another in a very long line of coaches, many of them very good coaches, who simply don't adapt well to change or the need to change. Similar to Sweeney at Clemson. Dabo's still a good coach, but he hasn't adjusted to the new world of college football and they are struggling.



Now that he has seemingly accepted the need to open up the offense, a little bit at least, and acknowledged he was coaching not to lose instead of to win, etc, - that's all I needed to see to feel like he was the right guy here again. Be open to change.

Its just it'd be nice to to hear you're beautiful every once in a while too. My pie in the sky would be to hear more of "what makes this place special" etc. There for a while it seemed it was more balanced.


It was "its tough to win here but what makes this place special" I'm good with that. Acknowledge the reality but also make it feel like the awesome place so many fans and people think it is.

Lately it just feels the second part has been dropped in favor or just its hard to win here. Maybe I have rabbit ears. That could also be the case.
 
You don’t listen to those coaches every week, so you have no idea if or how often they are saying stuff like that.
I listen to the press conferences so the first part of that is fairly insulting. Matter of fact I'll listen to on my computer, then because I'm a nerd, geek, and a sad individual, put the blue tooth in, and re-listen to it while on a walk with the dog to make sure I heard everything and didn't miss anything. The only press conferences I don't really listen to much are the players.

Yes, I have no life.

And yes, its said fairly regularly. Obviously 24/7 is a bit hyperbolic. But it is said a lot.
 
Seems I've struck a nerve with my post.

Yes, the athletic department does follow up with season ticket holders in club seating. Especially when they've had season tickets for a long period of time. His concern was that I hadn't inadvertently missed a deadline. Just a professional courtesy. He acknowledged my concern.

No, I don't expect JP to fire CMC over me dropping my season tickets.

Yes, they still have my contact information.

Get some self respect if you can't see how CMC is being disrespectful to you and the University.

Have a nice day.

This is delusional.
 
So much for the bs about winning championships. Theat will never happen with a stubborn coach like him.
Uhh-- issues with coach speak aside- you realize almost all coaches are stubborn?

The great ones just have a willingness to change when required to. But they're all stubborn. Hell, I've never met a successful person at anything who WASN'T stubborn.

Other than myself.:oops::(;)
 
I listen to the press conferences so the first part of that is fairly insulting. Matter of fact I'll listen to on my computer, then because I'm a nerd, geek, and a sad individual, put the blue tooth in, and re-listen to it while on a walk with the dog to make sure I heard everything and didn't miss anything. The only press conferences I don't really listen to much are the players.

Yes, I have no life.

And yes, its said fairly regularly. Obviously 24/7 is a bit hyperbolic. But it is said a lot.

I meant you don’t listen to the other team’s coaches.
 
I meant you don’t listen to the other team’s coaches.
Well, you're partially correct. I used to listen to Fitz as often and love listening to Elko and before him Cut at Duke. As I said... I have no life. You tube has been my friend many a times for finding coaches. Jonathan Smith at Oregon State is one of my current faves.

I'm the guy who used to collect football playing cards, organize them by teams, rent the past super bowls DVD from Mr. Movies or Blockbuster, get up at 5:30 AM on Saturday as a kid, take my box of cards down the steps, lay on the basement floor, and play out the super bowl one at a time. Or rather than running around a stadium as a kid all I wanted other than a funnel cake was the program so I could read about players and the roster and see the size, stats, etc of the players. Maybe its why I got into coaching. My dream job growing up was to be a DL or OL coach at the FCS or D2level because I knew I wasn't going to be smart enough to ever climb above that level. My career petered out before then and I'm happy where I'm at now and am just resigned to being a keyboard warrior with a small amount of football knowledge and delusions of grandeur
 
ISU could do way worse than Campbell, and they often have. Matt is doing pretty well in Ames. Sure, it's not OU, Bama, tOSU... but it's a LOT better than those previous eras.

Imagine ISU win percentage if they played in the Big 10 west...
 
Seems I've struck a nerve with my post.

Yes, the athletic department does follow up with season ticket holders in club seating. Especially when they've had season tickets for a long period of time. His concern was that I hadn't inadvertently missed a deadline. Just a professional courtesy. He acknowledged my concern.

No, I don't expect JP to fire CMC over me dropping my season tickets.

Yes, they still have my contact information.

Get some self respect if you can't see how CMC is being disrespectful to you and the University.

Have a nice day.

How is he specifically being disrespectful to the university? And how did it happen years ago?
 
Seems I've struck a nerve with my post.

Yes, the athletic department does follow up with season ticket holders in club seating. Especially when they've had season tickets for a long period of time. His concern was that I hadn't inadvertently missed a deadline. Just a professional courtesy. He acknowledged my concern.

No, I don't expect JP to fire CMC over me dropping my season tickets.

Yes, they still have my contact information.

Get some self respect if you can't see how CMC is being disrespectful to you and the University.

Have a nice day.

LMAO what a load of ****

You made the claim he’s disrespecting ISU. You back it up.

And you’re not as important as you’ve built up yourself to be in your head. Seek professional counseling.
 
I will use this year's schedule as an example and to clarify my post.

Realistically, at the start of this season, I thought there was a good possibility ISU would have 7-8 wins. One of those wins was of course to Ohio. I also thought Iowa was a winnable game at the beginning of the season.

With six games left, Iowa State will have to win 4 of the last 6 to get to seven wins.

I would hope that seven wins would be the absolute floor for Iowa State. It is not out of the relm of possibility that ISU could pull off an upset or two as well. That is how I got to 8-10 wins.

But losing to Ohio hurts, as was losing to Iowa.

Starting next year the floor should absolutely be 7 wins.
 
It is hard to win here and people need to remember that.
If you look at top 20 polls from the '60s, the '70s, most of the teams are the same. Why? They have large engaged fan bases and usually are in an area with a large pool of talent. First impressions are that NIL has made the resource advantage an even bigger factor. A coach at ISU is automatically at a disadvantage to the top 30 or 40 schools in the country. You have to be pretty damn good to win at I.S.U. As I said before, people who want him gone are Hawkeye fans or don't understand football. But I repeat myself.
 
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