Some of the money the state is reimbursing school kids parents to go to private schools should be spent on public education, K-12 and public universities,
WVU Eliminating Degree Programs-Future of Higher Ed
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Could be a symptom of trying to out-compete each other for students. Basically they are big business now, because of decisions by the govt.
This concept goes for every degree.
If someone goes for something more 'intentional' like business or education, that doesn't mean that's where they end up for all sorts of reasons.
Don't take the WSJ, but does it separate out fees from tuition? Think fees are often voted on by student body (Quality of Student Life), tuition increases are the result of academic operating expenses. And where does room and board fall into their analysis.
This is a real thing in WVU?!?!?!?
That sounds like the most disastrous policy ever!
WVU is 32 in Rhodes Scholars. Only Kansas among the new big 12 has more. WVU isnt Harvard, but it has good academic programs.
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WVU is 32 in Rhodes Scholars. Only Kansas among the new big 12 has more. WVU isnt Harvard, but it has good academic programs.
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My best colleague, and our department's most successful grad, is a West Virginia guy.
It's fun to make fun of the state, but goodness, we're Iowa. We can't look down on anyone anymore.
First doc that popped up for me.
The two worst time periods for appropriations came in the 2001-2005 and 2009-2012 spans. Over those spans, appropriations went down 100 MM and then 150MM respectively.
2001 ISU had roughly 27,900 students with 328MM total budget with a 115.0/199.5MM split tuition to appropriations
2012 it was 31040 students with 574.5MM budget with 317.6/221.8 split
2022 it was 29,969 students with a 748.1 MM budget with 476.5/231.5 split.
It was hard to get numbers far back, why I have 2001 since I couldn't find 2002 readily. The other thing I could not find was staff numbers. I do not know how staff for each of those years compares. I don't remember 2001 and 2002 really well for state funding personally but from what I read, those years were extreme cut years. Total per student budget increased 109% over that period. Inflation during that period was 65%. So ISU's per student budget increased 44% more than inflation.
One other thing that I remember is that the U was subsidizing the AD, believe around 4MM per year. Those funds would be in the 2001 numbers but not in the last set of numbers since the AD now receives no direct funds.
Editted: budget percentages were based on per student and not total.
The two worst time periods for appropriations came in the 2001-2005 and 2009-2012 spans. Over those spans, appropriations went down 100 MM and then 150MM respectively.
2001 ISU had roughly 27,900 students with 328MM total budget with a 115.0/199.5MM split tuition to appropriations
2012 it was 31040 students with 574.5MM budget with 317.6/221.8 split
2022 it was 29,969 students with a 748.1 MM budget with 476.5/231.5 split.
It was hard to get numbers far back, why I have 2001 since I couldn't find 2002 readily. The other thing I could not find was staff numbers. I do not know how staff for each of those years compares. I don't remember 2001 and 2002 really well for state funding personally but from what I read, those years were extreme cut years. Total per student budget increased 109% over that period. Inflation during that period was 65%. So ISU's per student budget increased 44% more than inflation.
One other thing that I remember is that the U was subsidizing the AD, believe around 4MM per year. Those funds would be in the 2001 numbers but not in the last set of numbers since the AD now receives no direct funds.
Editted: budget percentages were based on per student and not total.
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CycloneErik
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The AD receives the same amount of funds. It was just passed directly to students.
They have to take everyone that graduates HS!?? I legit had no idea that is a thing. That is absolutely wild. Wonder how many kids end up there that have no business being there like what you’re talking about.
That doesn’t mean anything, Montana has the same number as Michigan and more then Vanderbilt and no one is putting montana in the same realm as those schools.WVU is 32 in Rhodes Scholars. Only Kansas among the new big 12 has more. WVU isnt Harvard, but it has good academic programs.
Universities by Number of Rhodes Scholars
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford have produced the most Rhodes Scholars. Learn more about the US institutions producing the most Rhode Scholars.
I’m sure WVU has a couple good programs, anyone can get a good education at any major university if they apply themselves. But sadly we live in a world where that alum from WVU (if they aren’t in one of those fields) is going to face a major bias and reduced opportunity then a similar candidate from higher ranked school with a better reputation. Just by that standing it makes WVU a worse investment then ISU, unless you’re in one of those specific programs.
You have to be really bad to not get into Iowa universities.
people pretending iowa isn't midwest Mississippi now
lower taxes isnt always good. I live in Louisiana and politicians here have lowered taxes to the point we have terrible roads, bridges in disrepair, poor utility service, and poor schools.
No one likes waste, but part of being a part of civilized society is paying for the general welfare, especially for children and education.
Here's the catch though. If a University doesn't do that the students won't go. On one hand you have families complaining about the costs of education, but at the same time will complain if facilities aren't up to their standards.And building fancy 4 room two bath apartments for freshmen to live in instead of the old prison cell dorm rooms.
There are a ton of college grads doing such things. Is that a failure of the college? Is that the alums issue? Choices are to be made and the person in your example made a choice and it doesn't mean mistakes were made.
