Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Clonehomer

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Just went up to UConn yesterday to get ice cream from the best campus creamery I’ve had (UConn Dairy Bar) and it’s amazing they aren’t in a P5 league. And it’s solely because of their football. But aside from the cultural difference between the NE and Midwest, UConn and Iowa State are almost mirror-images. The campuses feel nearly the same. UConn has a great ag set up and great engineering. It’s located in the middle of nowhere here and trust me, if you walked the campus you would think you were in the Midwest more than the northeast.

What’s their stadium bridge situation? Perhaps that’s keeping them from being a P5 conference?
 

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This guy and Scheer get it at least. I can't wait for ASU to get absolutely destroyed when they join the conference
ASU, Stanford, Cal, etc. show the danger of sitting back and assuming that their future in the PAC was as simple as letting it ride. Meanwhile, the Big 12 aggresively pursued a better future with a clear vision. You see it in the AD's and you see it in the fans. There's a big reason why the TV contracts happened for the Big 12 and not the PAC...and it's blindingly easy to see when you look back on what happened. ASU is going to have a tough road over the next few years...
 

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ASU, Stanford, Cal, etc. show the danger of sitting back and assuming that their future in the PAC was as simple as letting it ride. Meanwhile, the Big 12 aggresively pursued a better future with a clear vision. You see it in the AD's and you see it in the fans. There's a big reason why the TV contracts happened for the Big 12 and not the PAC...and it's blindingly easy to see when you look back on what happened. ASU is going to have a tough road over the next few years...
West coast time slot did the pac in. Nobody wants to stay up til midnight to watch the tale end of a game. It's been hurting their recruiting over the years and the pac has slipped. Getting these teams scheduled with some east/Midwest time slot schools should help them in the long run.
 
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West coast time slot did the pac in. Nobody wants to stay up til midnight to watch the tale end of a game. It's been hurting their recruiting over the years and the pac has slipped. Getting these teams scheduled with some east/Midwest time slot schools should help them in the long run.
Lack of fans did the PAC in. No one went to games and no one cares. That's what almost every piece of data says. The teams where people or donors actually showed up had good landing spots.
 

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Not exactly sure.
ASU, Stanford, Cal, etc. show the danger of sitting back and assuming that their future in the PAC was as simple as letting it ride. Meanwhile, the Big 12 aggresively pursued a better future with a clear vision. You see it in the AD's and you see it in the fans. There's a big reason why the TV contracts happened for the Big 12 and not the PAC...and it's blindingly easy to see when you look back on what happened. ASU is going to have a tough road over the next few years...
I will give the slightest of leeway to 8 of the PAC schools. The LA schools standing in the way of expansion months before bolting shows the kind of teams the Big ten covets. I also believe that Oregon and Washington probably were doing the same thing but just didn't get the invite right away. After OrWa were told not yet by the big ten, I'm guessing they were looking for a way out and the chaos allowed that.
 

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Arizona is essentially in Pacific TZ for 2/3 of the year, including through most of Football season.

One of the advantages for the PAC schools is that they will have more games in the midwest and eastern time frames. This should provide them with more exposure on TV that they weren't getting before. If I recall, around 2010, the PAC complained about playing at the 11/noon time frame, but that meant their games kicked off 9/10 am local time. So they decided to target the later time frames; but that resulted in less exposure.
 

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So it sounds like ESPN gave $20 million each for ASU and Utah but Fox gave $0. Added that to the pool of money 14 teams X $31.7 million. Each of those 14 teams took a $1.5 million cut to ensure equal payments of $30.2 million to all 16 teams. It was considered to be a wise move to ensure that ASU and Utah would leave PAC. Sets Big 12 as the clear #3 Conference.
 

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I feel like it’s worth noting The Athletic has been about as accurate as Altimore and Canzano except asks for $60 a year to tell you they don’t know what they’re talking about.

Stew Mandel runs the college football section - The Athletic was the hardest outlet arguing the PAC 12 GOR signing Friday morning and Stew was wrong just about every step of the way.

I’d just be careful thinking anyone from
The Athletic knows what they’re talking about regarding college football, their sources have been wrong about the entire time.
Stew Mandel has been a P12 homer for years and has done everything in power to downgrade the B12 at every opportunity. He was always looking for ways to show the P12 was superior in every way to the B12, which is just the icing on the cake to see the breakup of the P12 and watching Stew whining over it.
 

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So it sounds like ESPN gave $20 million each for ASU and Utah but Fox gave $0. Added that to the pool of money 14 teams X $31.7 million. Each of those 14 teams took a $1.5 million cut to ensure equal payments of $30.2 million to all 16 teams. It was considered to be a wise move to ensure that ASU and Utah would leave PAC. Sets Big 12 as the clear #3 Conference.
If they already agreed to a per team cut once for nasty ASU and UU, they’re not going to agree to any further cuts, you can bet on that. They’ll be staying at 16.
 
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If they already agreed to a per team cut once for nasty ASU and UU, they’re not going to agree to any further cuts, you can bet on that. They’ll be staying at 16.

Talk of adding UConn and Gonzaga basketball only. Get maybe an Amazon deal additional money possibly. But might be more of a BY thing that he wants to pursue.
 

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Arizona is essentially in Pacific TZ for 2/3 of the year, including through most of Football season.
But the Arizona schools aren’t going to want to play night games at home on alternating weeks. They need a couple more schools for some flexibility if they are going to have a weekly late night game.

Maybe this is BYU or Utah having a late starting home game? Or maybe we add a couple more west coast venues?
 

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The only expansion I would be ok with right now is Uconn and Gonzaga basketball only. I don't think diluting our shares just to add more teams makes sense for teams no one else wants, as much as I would love to save OSU and WSU.
I don't think UConn wants a basketball only share though. Not sure how much they make in the Big East right now but I think its only like $5 million so maybe a basketball only share in the Big 12 is worth more than that.
 

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Reading the ASU boards, they are clowning Crow and their AD almost every post.
President Crow and AD Ray Anderson can't even get a victory lap interview correct.

1)They didn't even call a press conference, they answered some improptu questions against what appeared to be a storage shed of sorts by the practice field. From a handful of homer reporters lobbing softballs that would make the CR Gazette blush.

2)Crow was still talking up the Apple deal, as if he actually wanted to take it. He never actually said anything negative about the deal, instead we got his boomer hand movements trying to explain to us how technology works lol.

3)Crow admitted he had never personally even spoken to the Big 12 until 10:30am Friday when Oregon and Washington didn't show up to their emergency President's meeting. He explicitly claims He and Anderson did not make the decision to leave until they got stood up "2 schools". (Obviously UO and UW)

4) AD Ray Anderson said he will NOT being going to Morgantown. He will assign that to his deputy AD. Weird comment. Crow and Anderson looked at each other and laughed after he said it.

5)Anderson and Crow only took offense to any suggestion they didn't do enough to save the Pac12??? Crow said they were Pac12 stalwarts that fought for pac12 until the last ditch. Also a weird flex and pretty tone deaf to the fact that everyone and I do mean everyone saw the writing on the wall well before Friday morning.

6)Crow mentioned one time he is an ISU grad who threw javelin in Ames. Didn't feel the need to say anything positive about his ISU connection other than the passing mention that ISU was graced with his presence years ago .

 
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