Texas & Oklahoma leaving in 2024, period.
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Agreed. Where at a point where we can pick the P5 schools that get left behind by Big10 and SEC. I think from the PAC, you take the number of schools to equal the same as the Big10 and SEC. Then after that, just wait for the ACC to fall when the Big10 and SEC take their picks.
I would imagine Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, Wake Forest, Louisville, and Boston College are leftover. Then some mix of Miami, NC State, and Virginia Tech depending on what the SEC and Big 10 do. I would love Pitt, Virginia Tech, Louisville and Miami.
Guess what we've seen it's a toss up. Depends on schools interest and fan support to me. Always will, which makes me think ISU will be fine down the road.
Miami is getting grabbed by the sec or big ten for sure when the GOR is up
Funny thing. Hope we all agree everything going on is $$$$ driven?? If so, year in and year out, which game on our schedule has the most eyeballs and generates the most cash? Conference alignments barring even since they are becoming to mean nothing. We're always going to have 1 team in particular on our schedule.. any guesses??
Colorado is appealing for traveling to away games but other than that does nothing. Go get Oregon, Washington and the AZ schools if you can get them all locked into an iron clad agreement
The more I think about it, the more I like expanding to the point of having large divisions. Limiting travel for the West and East schools would be a huge benefit and it would allow for teams to develop rivalries with their division members. So add 4 more and get to 16 with an East/West split.
West:
4 PAC schools
BYU
TCU
Baylor
Tech
East:
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
WVU
Houston
Cincinnati
UCF
Or however the Texas school split would go. Play 7 division games and 2 cross-over games in football. Go wild and play 14 division games and 8 cross division games in basketball.
West:
4 PAC schools
BYU
TCU
Baylor
Tech
East:
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
WVU
Houston
Cincinnati
UCF
Or however the Texas school split would go. Play 7 division games and 2 cross-over games in football. Go wild and play 14 division games and 8 cross division games in basketball.
Not a big fan of getting that big, but if we did, I like your break down.
I found it.
Fox - $20 million
Eight schools - $10 million ea
Sources: Texas, OU will each pay $50 million in forfeited revenue to leave Big 12 early and join SEC in 2024
Sources: Texas and OU will each pay $50 million in forfeited revenue to leave the Big 12 one year early to join the SEC in 2024.
247sports.com
He mentioned the ACC and possible PAC as essential content but not the Big 10. Get real...
Once you get that big, it's basically having two conferences with a combined TV contract. By adding more West coast schools, travel to the Eastern schools gets pretty rough. I get that once you're flying it's not much of a difference for going an additional state or two over, but that's a cross country flight with potentially a 3 hour time zone difference. It's be in everyone's best interests to limit how often those schools play.
You let them join with a huge payout attached. Just like the OU and Texas payout. Worst case they bail and all the schools make a ton of money. Worst case they stay and play sports. I think the new commisioner is a business man and will make good decisions based on money. San Diego State is not even close to being a big time program yet and where they are in San Diego they don't have much to grow.
He was talking specifically about ESPN's internal discussions, Big 10 is Fox.
San Diego state is a horrible option and should never be considered by the Big12. Yeah they might* be better than WSU of OSU but no one is talking about having either of those schools added to the big 12. This love affair some people have with SDSU is so odd and has no basis in reality.
Question:
What's the $100M for? Is this the simple conference exit fees or is it compensation for the GoR?
The basic exit fee was meant to be 2 years revenue distributions, or about $80M EACH. And this has nothing to do with how many years they stay in the conference, or how early they leave or not.
Then the GoR was supposed to be on top of that, and the more difficult nit to unpick.
If Big12 is only getting $100M (or $80M after Fox gets a cut), then they are leaving about $80M on the table. Again, they should be owed that money even if OuT stays thru 2025. This isn't like Scott Frosts contract, where they could have waited and reduced their obligation. Why give them a break on that, and why so large? The OP article says it "usually" gets negotiated down to 60%, but why agree to that just because "usually"? Did ESPN/Fox fatten up the TV deal (or agree to shiv the PAC so Big12 could survive) in exchange for this?
Also, is the Big12 getting anything additional for the loss of 1 year of GoR? I've not seen anything about that.
Maybe I am missing something, certainly I have not dug into the details as much as I could.
What's the $100M for? Is this the simple conference exit fees or is it compensation for the GoR?
The basic exit fee was meant to be 2 years revenue distributions, or about $80M EACH. And this has nothing to do with how many years they stay in the conference, or how early they leave or not.
Then the GoR was supposed to be on top of that, and the more difficult nit to unpick.
If Big12 is only getting $100M (or $80M after Fox gets a cut), then they are leaving about $80M on the table. Again, they should be owed that money even if OuT stays thru 2025. This isn't like Scott Frosts contract, where they could have waited and reduced their obligation. Why give them a break on that, and why so large? The OP article says it "usually" gets negotiated down to 60%, but why agree to that just because "usually"? Did ESPN/Fox fatten up the TV deal (or agree to shiv the PAC so Big12 could survive) in exchange for this?
Also, is the Big12 getting anything additional for the loss of 1 year of GoR? I've not seen anything about that.
Maybe I am missing something, certainly I have not dug into the details as much as I could.
Rumors out there that Arizona State is pissed about the what's happening with the Pac, especially SMU, and might be more open to moving than they have been in the past.
