NFL: Kansas City Chiefs Thread

[Dandy]

It's only estimated at this point. Lots of time to heal up. I think Hardman is probably going to be a no go though. I think they should have shut him down a long time ago so he can fully heal. Now he's probably hurt worse and no contract for next year. Going to cost him some cash.

I doubt Hardman was going to get a big contract anyways. Not exactly burning up the stat sheet in a very WR friendly system.

Hardman is probably out. I would hope Toney can play but that dude is so injury prone. JuJu I have my doubts, mostly from the tweet I saw that he couldn't even walk up stairs after the game. Watson should be back so that will help.

 

[dahliaclone]

Brady only had a losing record to one team

 

[houjix]

Brady only had a losing record to one team

FYI, does not include playoffs. He's 3-0 vs KC in the playoffs. Throw in that and only Denver and SF have .500 records against Brady, everyone else is below that.

 

[houjix]

I doubt Hardman was going to get a big contract anyways. Not exactly burning up the stat sheet in a very WR friendly system.

Hardman is probably out. I would hope Toney can play but that dude is so injury prone. JuJu I have my doubts, mostly from the tweet I saw that he couldn't even walk up stairs after the game. Watson should be back so that will help.

This was his year to shine, but he got hurt in week one. which hampered him. and then seriously hurt in week 9. He showed out for about 4 weeks while healthy, but that was it. A full, healthy season and he probably gets offered a decent contract somewhere. Now maybe a 1 year deal to see if he has fully recovered is his best bet.

Toney ends up hurting himself more than anything with those violent back jump cuts he does. If they can get him to think more like football player than a basketball player, he would be better off. One forward cut and go.

Juju's knee is always going to be a thing. He's says it's chronic at this point. I'm sure the cold weather didn't help him at all. If he can't be helpful in the SB, won't see him here next year

 

[deadeyededric]

Who are we going to get to play LT next year as Orlando Brown is likely gone?

 

[Halincandenza]

That injury report from yesterday is a big yikes. Gotta get healthy at WR. Cannot roll out a threesome of MVS, Moore and Kemp for an entire game.

I think we really won't know the about the WRs until next week.

 

[Halincandenza]

Who are we going to get to play LT next year as Orlando Brown is likely gone?

What makes you think that? Seems like they want to get a deal done and Brown wants to be in KC.

 

[CloneinWDSM]

What makes you think that? Seems like they want to get a deal done and Brown wants to be in KC.

He doesn’t deserve what he’s going to want.

 

[cycfan1]

He doesn’t deserve what he’s going to want.

And someone like Chicago who has a ton of cash is going to spend it.

 

[Halincandenza]

He doesn’t deserve what he’s going to want.

THey were pretty close last year but wanted more guaranteed money. With the huge increase in salary cap I wouldn't be surprised at all if they get a deal done.

 

[Mr Janny]

THey were pretty close last year but wanted more guaranteed money. With the huge increase in salary cap I wouldn't be surprised at all if they get a deal done.

He finished the season very strong as well, which is going to benefit him. I thought I read that Pro football focus graded him in the top 5 of all tackles in the 2nd half of the season.

LT is one of those positions that you have to be careful not to **** around with, too much. Even an above average player at the position is difficult to replace.

 

[RonBurgundy]

This was his year to shine, but he got hurt in week one. which hampered him. and then seriously hurt in week 9. He showed out for about 4 weeks while healthy, but that was it. A full, healthy season and he probably gets offered a decent contract somewhere. Now maybe a 1 year deal to see if he has fully recovered is his best bet.

I always thought the Chiefs were going to move on from Hardman, but it might be best to bring him back on a one year “prove it” deal. He does know the system.

 

[Halincandenza]

I always thought the Chiefs were going to move on from Hardman, but it might be best to bring him back on a one year “prove it” deal. He does know the system.

That is what I am guessing happens. Because of his injuries this year I am guessing they can get a pretty good deal.

 

[Halincandenza]

He finished the season very strong as well, which is going to benefit him. I thought I read that Pro football focus graded him in the top 5 of all tackles in the 2nd half of the season.

LT is one of those positions that you have to be careful not to **** around with, too much. Even an above average player at the position is difficult to replace.

He also has been good in the two playoff games .

 

[spierceisu]

He finished the season very strong as well, which is going to benefit him. I thought I read that Pro football focus graded him in the top 5 of all tackles in the 2nd half of the season.

LT is one of those positions that you have to be careful not to **** around with, too much. Even an above average player at the position is difficult to replace.

I had heard he graded out well, but never that impressed with him. Maybe not hearing his name much is a good thing. He seemed to get beat a bunch last season, but maybe its because of injury. I'm really surprised that the Chiefs struggle to run the ball with what I thought in general was a good oline.

 

[houjix]

I think we really won't know the about the WRs until next week.

Andy's press conference today said Hardman wouldn't practice and neither would Juju, who has knee swelling. Toney participated in walks throughs and is progressing well, but did not practice otherwise.

 

[houjix]

He finished the season very strong as well, which is going to benefit him. I thought I read that Pro football focus graded him in the top 5 of all tackles in the 2nd half of the season.

LT is one of those positions that you have to be careful not to **** around with, too much. Even an above average player at the position is difficult to replace.

As much crap as some Chiefs fans gave Eric Fisher, I'm sure every one of them would have taken it all back to have him healthy for SB LV.

 

[deadeyededric]

He doesn’t deserve what he’s going to want.

Bingo. Im not saying he sucks but I dont think he deserves elite LT money anymore.

 

[houjix]

I had heard he graded out well, but never that impressed with him. Maybe not hearing his name much is a good thing. He seemed to get beat a bunch last season, but maybe its because of injury. I'm really surprised that the Chiefs struggle to run the ball with what I thought in general was a good oline.

If we're talking about PFF grades, they hate both of KC tackles. Sometimes I think their grading system for O-linemen doesn't really capture things well. KC grades better up the middle on running, but they certainly have a problem winning at the line when the D knows it's going to be a run on short yardage situations.

I'm certainly not opposed to KC signing him long term, even to a decent sized contract, but I'm also not going to lose sleep if they just decide to franchise him again next year and draft his replacement.

 

[Dandy]

As much crap as some Chiefs fans gave Eric Fisher, I'm sure every one of them would have taken it all back to have him healthy for SB LV.

I never really disliked Fisher, mostly because he serviceable and his draft class was hot garbage. Best we could do.