Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

WhoISthis

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Im not confused about anything, Im just kind of sick of you repeating the same ACC this ACC that over and over. :rolleyes:
If that is being triggered I guess, Im guilty. :eek:LOL

Edit: and if anyone is the Mandel, you are that, of the ACC.

Sure you are. You are just too rudimentary in your thinking on this to see it.

Other posts have been objecting to the notion the ACC isn't vulnerable to getting liquidated before 2036, primarily due to FSU and Miami's motivations. In other words, the GOR is not prohibitive to the Big 12 getting leftovers far sooner than 2036. That is hardly pro-ACC, but I know that pro-Big 12 stance upsets you.

This one is about 10-12 Big 12 schools going to the ACC if the 4 corners sign a GOR with PAC. Not really pro-ACC as much as it is in the context of the risk that the 4 corners are taking if they pass on Big 16. And getting that many schools into the ACC is a win outisde of being with ESPN. ISU would take being added to the current ACC with 9 other Big 12 schools without hesitation right now. There are worse outcomes if the PAC signs a GOR- namely that ESPN uses it as an opportunity to flip schools one-by-one, until it is every Big 12 school for themselves like it was when we were "5 minutes away" from a few Big 12 schools going to PAC.

You should take a step back and think things over before you get triggered again.

By now you should realize that there are very few possible plots left. And things will occur far before 2036 in any case. The devil is in the details, and once again you missed those.
 
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2speedy1

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Sure you are. You are just too rudimentary in your thinking on this to see it.

Other posts have been objecting to the notion the ACC isn't vulnerable to getting liquidated before 2036, primarily due to FSU and Miami's motivations. In other words, the GOR is not prohibitive to the Big 12 getting leftovers far sooner than 2036. That is hardly pro-ACC, but I know that pro-Big 12 stance upsets you.

This one is about 10-12 Big 12 schools going to the ACC if the 4 corners sign a GOR with PAC. Not really pro-ACC as much as it is in the context of the risk that the 4 corners are taking if they pass on Big 16. And getting that many schools into the ACC is a win outisde of being with ESPN. ISU would take being added to the current ACC with 9 other Big 12 schools without hesitation right now. There are worse outcomes if the PAC signs a GOR- namely that ESPN uses it as an opportunity to flip schools one-by-one, until it is every Big 12 school for themselves like it was when we were "5 minutes away" from a few Big 12 schools going to PAC.

You should take a step back and think things over before you get triggered again.

By now you should realize that there are very few possible plots left. And things will occur far before 2036 in any case. The devil is in the details, and once again you missed those.
I never said you were pro ACC or anti ACC, or Big 12 for that matter. I said every post and theory you have Revolves around the ACC. Its tiring.

You continue to gaslight me for things you do yourself. You continue to miss the details and miss read posts and put words in mine and others mouths that were not said or implied.

The fact that yet again your post revolves around ........the ACC...... with no actual truth, facts, or anything based in reality, is what I am talking about. Everyone on here knows you believe everything hinges on the ACC, you have based almost every post you have made in this thread on that.

You can call it what you want, triggered, annoyed, tired of it, or just because I have actual real world common sense. You seem to pretend like you know what you are talking about but you just continually prove you have little to no knowledge of any real world experience, no real world data, or any other links or data to back up anything that would make anything you say as more than just a fantasy, of a inexperienced kid barely out of high school. Problem for you is it is very easy to see you are pretending. Everything you write on the subject continually reads like someone that is desperate for validation, and when anyone disagrees with you, you get defensive and repeat yourself and the same theory, and instead of adding quantifying information, you just add more speculation, and inaccuracies due to lack of experience or knowledge.

You may think there are only a few plots left, but I guarantee you there are far more than any of us can think of. You have by far exhausted any and all of them that have to do with the ACC.

By now you should realize very few people think anything like what you say has even a remote possibility of happening. Most everything you have continued to theorize is not even based in reality. You might as well be saying U of North Dakota is heading to the Big 10, it is just not even remotely realistic.

You are soon to be the first person on my ignore list.
 

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They could be a wash if they provide that late time slot so we cover all available time slots. Right now BYU is about it, and they have to play half their games on the road. So that would mean we would ask half the teams to host one 9 pm game every other year.
Any team in the Pac would provide that, if we did the blind resume test, I think most of us would pass on CU and UA.
 
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If WA/WA St and OR/OR St are a package deal to get into the Big XII, they need to be a package deal if part of that packages leaves. Say all four join the Big XII in 2024. OR gets an invite to the Big 10 in 2032 starting in 2034. The Big XII gets to decide if they want to keep OR St or not for the 2034 season and beyond. If they choose to keep them, the deal is off and OR St is a member just as any other. If they choose to cut them off, both parties just go their separate ways.
If they were a package deal (for political reasons) to be added to the Big XII why would they not be a package deal for the Big 10 for the same reason? Not saying you said political but that seems like the most reasonable explanation for anyone taking WSU and OSU.
 

cykadelic2

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The merger was already discussed by the 2 conferences and the Big 12 said "yeah, no thanks"
A merger will most likely involve a new rebranded conference and will be contingent on ORWA being included along with a long term GOR (8+ years). IMO, a merger is still in play if ORWA commits to the long term GOR. My assumption is that the B12 previously walked away due to that lack of commitment at that point in time.
 

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A merger will most likely involve a new rebranded conference and will be contingent on ORWA being included along with a long term GOR (8+ years). IMO, a merger is still in play if ORWA commits to the long term GOR. My assumption is that the B12 previously walked away due to that lack of commitment at that point in time.
Unlikely
 

cykadelic2

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A merger will most likely involve a new rebranded conference and will be contingent on ORWA being included along with a long term GOR (8+ years). IMO, a merger is still in play if ORWA commits to the long term GOR. My assumption is that the B12 previously walked away due to that lack of commitment at that point in time.

What is unlikely in your opinion? An ORWA commitment?

Without a near term B10 invite, ORWA's only viable option may be committing to a merged B12/PAC for 10+ years. Otherwise, their options are to go indy or maintain membership in a depleted PAC that includes at least 4 members that are existing G5 schools.
 

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To be fair, anyone thinking the ACC or PAC will add Big12 schools is a complete idiot.
I think fans of the ACC and PAC 12 would say the same thing. I tend to agree with you, but I don't think it's as clear-cut as you're making it seem.
 

SEIOWA CLONE

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If you look at the three conferences based on their stability, the B12 and ACC are the most stable.

1. B12 because we have already been raided and then expanded, it looks now like the B10 nor the SEC would take one of our teams unless it's to fill a spot to get them to an even number. They both have bigger fish to go after before that will occur.

2. ACC, generally because of their GOR which extends until 2035. If anyone thinks they can break the GOR agreement, then how come UT and OU are still in the conference. If they could break their GOR agreement, Clemson and Florida St. would leave tomorrow. Since the schools are locked into the agreement for the next 10 years at least, that gives them a stability now, but an unstable future.

3. P12, no one knows if they are going or staying, by far the worst conference outlook. Even if the 4 corner schools stay for now, they will always be looking at Oregon, Washington and Stanford and wondering how long they will be in the conference. It's going to happen, it's just a matter of when, not if.

The idea has already been floated about merging, P12 and ACC, shot down, B12 and P12, went nowhere, and now this silly notion about the B12 and ACC. Why would the B12 merge with another conference when they can just sit and watch the other 2 conference be destroyed by B10 and SEC. Offer the P12 schools a deal that if you join now, you get full media rights, if you wait, it will be gradual rise in money. Then just sit back and wait, no school is going to take the B12 offer if they think they are going to get a B10 offer and the extra money.