Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

I realize where SDSU is in the pecking order. But it is based on 2 games after 9pm ET on FS1. Put SDSU on Fox, ABC or CBS at noon, 3 or 7 and we would see SDSU draw 1M+ viewers.

As ISU fans we justify our lower 1.2M figure when compared to Iowa, Nebraska, Texas, Okie State, etc based on the number of prime slots on our schedule.

No different than when the Pac12 shiill starts using viewership #'s to say how great a draw Washington State is- look at the individual games. Or in the case of Washington State, games on Pac12N that aren't counted.

My point was compare how many of those markee slots their peer got, and still averaged double and triple the numbers.

Are you saying UCF had more on ABC or Tulsa did? How about South Florida or East Carolina? They had much worse seasons and some not as large of markets and still out drew SDSU significantly.

This was my point. If SDSU was outdrawing its peers then we could talk but it isnt even outdrawing many in the G5, even with significantly better seasons and markets.

I realize they wont compare to teams like Iowa State, etc, with better slots. I just put those in as reference.

 

[2speedy1]

Yep if you got rid of the top 5/6 teams in the big ten then big ten would be in the same boat.

oof 5/6 that's a little optimistic. Might want to cut that in about half.

 

[2speedy1]

By that logic Maryland, Rutgers and Indiana should also be top ten teams in ratings.

We got over 4 mil playing Purdue and over 2 mil playing northwestern which this board constantly mentions as teams that shouldn’t be in the big ten. I’m not saying we’re on OSU or Michigan’s level becuase no teams are, even bama had a game barely over 100k and Georgia had two of those games but when we are good we draw very well.

I don't think people say they "shouldn't" be in the Big 10, People say they would not be able to get in, in today's circumstances. And if push came to shove, and some, in the most extreme circumstance happened they would be ones to get the boot. They also would be on the bottom of any kind of unequal revenue.

 

[Cloneon]

One stat which will become increasingly apparent is 'spending by viewers' with regard to the advertising they see because, that is what really matters to the people upstairs.
And one measure we can already draw upon is how well a team travels. From everything I've read ISU spends gobs of money there; more than most schools. I wonder how our spending habits translate directly to the advertising provided. 'Streaming' is the only medium which can minutely translate that. Soon, you'll have a 'discount code' which is exclusive to you. If you use that, it's a boon for advertisers metrics and then we'll see where we stand against the others.

 

[Acylum]

I can never decide whether to read the 8 most recent pages of this thread or shove a red hot poker up my ass.

 

[Cloneon]

I can’t decide which one of those teams is most implausible to leave the SEC (of course none of them are leaving) but I feel like it has to be Tennessee

An interesting side note to this fantasy is how it would adversely hurt the SEC by taking away one of those 'likely' wins. Even 1 win off the elite's schedule could have dramatic effects in the CFP. Hmmmm.

 

[Cloneon]

I can never decide whether to read the 8 most recent pages of this thread or shove a red hot poker up my ass.

Poker!

 

[mj4cy]

I can never decide whether to read the 8 most recent pages of this thread or shove a red hot poker up my ass.

I scroll and look for twitter re-posts...usually means some sort of news.

 

[HoopsTournament]

If they want to play an odd number of conference games, they cant have an odd number of teams. It is mathematically impossible to put together a schedule. So they would have to go to 8 or 10 games if that happened.

@Clonedogg You can disagree all you want, but it is a fact. Try to make a schedule with an odd number of games and an odd number of teams and see if it works. It is not possible. The total number of games is equal to number of teams times games per team divided by 2 (because every game has 2 teams). If you multiply two odd numbers and divide by 2, it is not an integer.

 

[CascadeClone]

Just when you thought this thread couldnt get worse, Math has entered the chat.

 

[KidSilverhair]

An interesting side note to this fantasy is how it would adversely hurt the SEC by taking away one of those 'likely' wins. Even 1 win off the elite's schedule could have dramatic effects in the CFP. Hmmmm.

That’s where I come down on the whole idea of the “elites” breaking away to form their own league without any Vanderbilt/Rutgers/Northwestern deadweight. While the media money would be swimming-pools-full-of-gold-coins insane, somebody still has to lose half of those games. Why would Auburn or Michigan State or Iowa or Florida want to move to a model where they’d be 3-9 or 4-8 most years? Those “deadweight” teams serve a purpose, providing more wins for the “big boys” of a conference.

Also, looking at TV windows, this is why growing big conferences and keeping the weaker teams is important. You increase the number of prime TV matchups like USC-Ohio State or Texas-Georgia, so the national afternoon/Saturday night TV slots have even more eyeball-grabbing inventory; but you still have the Marylands and Kentuckys to pick up easy wins against on ESPN+ or BTN or whatever. (Which, frankly, is going to make that elusive viewership of teams like SDSU even more unlikely ... @isucy86 when do you think any G5 team is going to get a valuable 2:30 or 7:00 TV kickoff with even more prime blue-blood games available?)

 

[Rural]

That’s where I come down on the whole idea of the “elites” breaking away to form their own league without any Vanderbilt/Rutgers/Northwestern deadweight. While the media money would be swimming-pools-full-of-gold-coins insane, somebody still has to lose half of those games. Why would Auburn or Michigan State or Iowa or Florida want to move to a model where they’d be 3-9 or 4-8 most years? Those “deadweight” teams serve a purpose, providing more wins for the “big boys” of a conference.

Also, looking at TV windows, this is why growing big conferences and keeping the weaker teams is important. You increase the number of prime TV matchups like USC-Ohio State or Texas-Georgia, so the national afternoon/Saturday night TV slots have even more eyeball-grabbing inventory; but you still have the Marylands and Kentuckys to pick up easy wins against on ESPN+ or BTN or whatever. (Which, frankly, is going to make that elusive viewership of teams like SDSU even more unlikely ... @isucy86 when do you think any G5 team is going to get a valuable 2:30 or 7:00 TV kickoff with even more prime blue-blood games available?)

Yeah, but they're never going to exclusively play one another, someone will get to see what 3-9 looks like.

 

[BCClone]

Yeah, but they're never going to exclusively play one another, someone will get to see what 3-9 looks like.

Yep, is it best to be the dumbest kid in the smart group or the smart kid in the dumb group. That’s how the elites look at it. Rather be the moron hanging with the nerds.

 

[cygrads]

My dream scenario is the B12 partners with CBS/NBC and they give us enough money to entice OR, WA. AZ and CO to come from the P12 and to entice Mizzou, AR. KY and TN to leave the SEC. I know that sounds crazy, but I think Mizzou would do it if they could get $70 million or so. They aren't thrilled with the SEC and would love to get away from OU and Texas. If Mizzou leaves, we could get some others to follow.

While this would never happen I'd definitely like to get Mizoo and Arkansas in the conference. They are both good fits culturally and geographicly. I know Missouri left but I'd take them back in a heartbeat just like CU.

 

[PickSix]

Can we please get back to Paige Spiranac?

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

That’s where I come down on the whole idea of the “elites” breaking away to form their own league without any Vanderbilt/Rutgers/Northwestern deadweight. While the media money would be swimming-pools-full-of-gold-coins insane, somebody still has to lose half of those games. Why would Auburn or Michigan State or Iowa or Florida want to move to a model where they’d be 3-9 or 4-8 most years? Those “deadweight” teams serve a purpose, providing more wins for the “big boys” of a conference.

Also, looking at TV windows, this is why growing big conferences and keeping the weaker teams is important. You increase the number of prime TV matchups like USC-Ohio State or Texas-Georgia, so the national afternoon/Saturday night TV slots have even more eyeball-grabbing inventory; but you still have the Marylands and Kentuckys to pick up easy wins against on ESPN+ or BTN or whatever. (Which, frankly, is going to make that elusive viewership of teams like SDSU even more unlikely ... @isucy86 when do you think any G5 team is going to get a valuable 2:30 or 7:00 TV kickoff with even more prime blue-blood games available?)

A few reasons:

1. The money will allow them to continue to enlarge their programs for all the other sports to the point where even weak sports become a strength when playing other teams outside the league.

2. Ego, everyone wants to be in the best group, their fan bases would delight in giving the lesser schools hell because they are not in the prime-time league.

3. It's simple, none of them actually think they are going to be that school that is going 3-9 and 4-8 most years. Much like Nebraska fans thought the move to the B10 would prolong their dominance in football in the b10. You really think EIU fans believe that they are going to fall back to 3-9 seasons, year after year, they will reason maybe a 5- or 6-win season every now, but then, right back to 8–9-win seasons. It's the way they think.

 

[jcyclonee]

Can we please get back to Paige Spiranac?

How did I miss her?

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

I can never decide whether to read the 8 most recent pages of this thread or shove a red hot poker up my ass.

Don't do either of these alternatives.

 

[nfrine]

Can we please get back to Paige Spiranac?

Not sure if those would help my golf swing...

 

[Statefan10]

Not sure if those would help my golf swing...
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Probably help keep your upper body more compact