Lots of moving parts, but CBS doesn’t want left out.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Personally, I'm not sold on Oregon. Once Knight passes on, will there be the same advantage from Nike? And without that, will Oregon still be the powerhouse they have been over the past decade or so? Just not sure if they're worth going outside the footprint that far. The corners seem to just fit better.
Agree, I would think that Oregon would require full payment year 1, while Oregon State would be partial year 1+.
Seems like Washington has been pretty quiet the last month. I feel like they know they are Big10 bound regardless if ND joins or not. Same goes for Stanford as they & UW could be travel partners.
The wait on ND is more about how many teams does the Big10 take from the Pac12. With Arizona State, Utah & Colorado maybe just as valuable to the Big10 as Oregon.
Guessing he sets up a foundation. He would loose a few billion in taxes through his estate so he could give a couple bill away and not phase anything.
Oregon is too much Kevin Durant and not enough Michael Jordan. A bunch of loser schools like that (OU and UT included). Become the best so you can beat the best instead of latching on to the coattails of the best…
But it's more than just money. The special treatment Oregon gets for things like their infinite uniform combinations is an advantage you can't just buy.
Cal should be in a P5 conference, but few want to put up with their bull****. The Big 10 might be willing to put up with it, but the Big 12 won't - and Cal would probably would rather eliminate all athletics before they shared a conference with the likes of BYU and Baylor.
Should they though? They play in one of the easiest places to recruit in the country and suck consistently
When I say "should" I mean under ordinary circumstances. As you were saying, Cal is the kind of school that should be easy to have success, and they did in the early 2000s. But in the late 2010s and 2020s, not only do they not compete, the people at that school seem to treat their uncompetitiveness as a badge of honor.
But the Football players do have to play School @ Cal.
It'd be tough to pass the NCAA drug tests when you have to walk through clouds of pot smoke as you walk around campus.
The B10 is strong because of the way their network is set up, they forced BTN on basic cable, allowing them to charge every household in the state that has cable or sat. tv, $1.10 per month. That is the why California is so valuable to the conference, you have millions of homes that will now be paying that much each month into the coffers of BTN. Does not matter if you watch or not, everyone with cable is now paying the rate.
The B12 does not have a network to make the same money for its member schools. We get our money from the networks and the ratings from the amount that network can charge for commercials to the programing. If no one is watching SD football, then the rates for advertisers can charge is going to be less.
B10 is based on viewership, while the B10 is based on just having a school in your state.
Ok, so this seems to be bandied about ‘round here a lot.
What exactly is Cal’s ********?
I have friends/co-workers/acquaintances with degrees from every Pac-12 school except ASU (I think).
Other than some (mostly) good-natured ribbing about it being dirty and a bit too proletariat by some ‘Ferd people I’ve never heard a ******* peep about Cal being an issue of any kind in the Pac-12.
Townspeople from the City of Berkeley and their griping about increased enrollment without building housing, big-oil and big-pharma funded research, etc. is another matter.
Sure, that’s what we tell ourselves.
But look at the ratings.
The Big 10 is strong because they dominate in ratings, have huge followings and are a top brand because of that.
BTN is a small part now. Mountain West had a network first and it went no where because they don’t have the fans like the BIG
Cal and Stanford dont have issues with their peers in the Pac 12 in schools that think like them. There issues are with the rest of the country, schools, and states that they dont believe, fit their beliefs, politics, academics, and are not as elite as what they believe they are.
No one thinks they have an issue with the rest of the Pac schools. It is their issue with schools, in Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma, etc, and religious affiliated schools that they turn their noses up to. This is and has been well known for many years. Their beliefs are deep seeded and are tied to many issues. Whether they are realistic or not and whether they are based in truth or stereotypes, it does not matter, they have an extreme aversion to many schools because of their affiliation or location.
Let me repeat back what I think I’m hearing:
A weird, deep-seated insecurity about being perceived as inferior by a gross caricature of an institution of which there is seemingly little-to-no firsthand knowledge/experience is manifesting as vague complaints and bizarre glee at the prospect putting them in their place.
Sound about right?
BTN is a huge money making tool of the conference, it's what allowed them to bring in Rutgers and Maryland, not for the teams, but the markets that it services.
I doubt if the rating for the B10 are any better than the SEC is getting on a week to week basis. You want huge ratings, put a team on ABC starting at 7:00 on a Saturday night and you are going to get large ratings. Sure Ohio State or Michigan are going to bring in more that Iowa or ISU, but the latter two schools will have a large rating share.
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Eh, no. None of that really matters to me. It is why they would not want in the Big 12, not the other way around. The only reason the Big 12 would not want them is because of lacking viewership and value. Not because of cultural issues, those are only an issue for Cal and Stanford joining with others.
Most of us think they are quirky, and annoying, and elitist, but could care less. We have witnessed their adversity towards schools like us and Baylor, TCU, Boise, BYU and heard their reasons for it etc. But most of us dont really care about that we still would go there to beat their butts if they dont hurt our pay out per year.
From many of your posts, Im starting to believe you are a pac 12 fan, pretending to be a Cyclone fan. You are very defensive of the Pac.
