Probably. USC is still recovering from that pounding they took a couple of years ago
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Utah is probably a bigger market for real eyes and real viewers/paying fans. Fastest growing state in the country with two power conference caliber teams and no NFL teams.
That's all right with me, If it wasn't for the cream of the SEC and the B1G the rest of them aren't any better than ISU in any sport including FB.
If they expand any further they may never play each other, especially if the big dogs of the Big 10 want USC and (potentially) Oregon every year.
I wish they would do this for football and then split everything else off. Let basketball and all the other sports that don't matter for **** in realignment be more regionally focused again.
CycloneErik
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I don't see the problem. Nothing says "nice Midwestern conference" like schools in LA.
Well, recruiting is coming down to do you wanna play big time football (B1G or SEC) or lower tier football. The SEC (ESPN) and The B1G (Fox) are running college sports.
So who here is pumped for high impact college football games like Rutgers vs USC and UCLA vs Purdue? I mean are people actually gonna watch this ****?
I am not so sure that we don't see football, men's basketball as separate legal entities down the line. Last week a committee studying Title IX Compliance criticized NCAA schools for only focusing on equal opportunities and not equal spending. The current political wind could support that stance.
I could see a situation where Big10/SEC/ACC & Big12 conferences only sponsor a handful of sports. The Olympic sports would operate more like club sports.
This is the most compelling case they end up dropping teams like Rutgers and Maryland. Not now, but sometime they will. The big dogs will get tired of the Vandys, the Rutgers', the Marylands. Eventually they'll tire of the Minnesota's, Purdues and Nebraska's too. It's a steamroller that isn't stopping soon.
I think Fox Made the first Move. Why negotiate with 2 conferences, when you can take the top from one conference and add it to the other, and instead of having to spend money in 2 places you can concentrate all you money in one spot to make it happen.
This is why the huge jump in pay for just a couple schools, its not that those 2 schools are worth $400 mill, its that with bringing those 2 and then maybe a couple more you no longer have to negotiate with that second conference to get those games. Hence the $500 mill or so you were planning on bidding on the PAC can be used to add to sweeten the B1G deal to entice those teams to join.
I would imagine Oregon's status is the question that every national sports journalist in the country is trying to answer right now.
Media rights-wise, the SEC is with ESPN until the end, the ACC is locked in until 2036, and the B1G is with FOX until the end. With increased inventory, it wouldn't shock me at all if both CBS and NBC get some sort of deal with the B1G now. That would increase the B12's desirability from FOX's perspective in needing some more inventory, and also keep us open for one of the streaming giants.
I'd be fine with Amazon or Apple here if they have any desire. They both want to get in on sports (NFL, MLB, MLS for starters), with the question being if the B12 is prestigious enough for them to take it on. A B12 + 4-8 of the current PAC schools would certainly be much better for those prospects - 8-10 FB games every Saturday, and tons of high-level basketball as well. Brett, make it happen.
I'd be fine with Amazon or Apple here if they have any desire. They both want to get in on sports (NFL, MLB, MLS for starters), with the question being if the B12 is prestigious enough for them to take it on. A B12 + 4-8 of the current PAC schools would certainly be much better for those prospects - 8-10 FB games every Saturday, and tons of high-level basketball as well. Brett, make it happen.
They could just go to all conference games and those would take the place of the current pre-conference games. Don’t need to have the big time pre-con games anymore either. Oregon vs tOSU will be a conference game and $$$$ straight to the conference.
Non revenue sports taking charter flights all over the freaking country instead of playing the programs at similar sized schools right next to them is terrifically stupid. It sets a horrible example for sustainability and is just a waist of money, it exposes how stupid the "non profit" nature of all this has become.
As a casual college wrestling fan it seems like a sport that could benefit from sort of open format rather than these far flung conferences. I'm sure all the non revenue sports I don't follow at all are the same way.
If the B1G adds USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington.... and the Big 12 adds Cincy, Houston, BYU, UCF, Utah, and Colorado..... here's how those teams finished in last years final AP Poll......
4. Cincy
12. Utah
17. Houston
19. BYU
22. Oregon
None of the other teams even got a single vote for the top 25. In fact, when was the last time UCLA or Washington was any good at all? USC hasn't been that good forever either it feels like.
Now I'm not saying I'd rather be adding those teams to the Big 12, based on brand alone, but the teams the Big 12 are adding are no slouches whatsoever. Oh.... and they all finished above Iowa too.
4. Cincy
12. Utah
17. Houston
19. BYU
22. Oregon
None of the other teams even got a single vote for the top 25. In fact, when was the last time UCLA or Washington was any good at all? USC hasn't been that good forever either it feels like.
Now I'm not saying I'd rather be adding those teams to the Big 12, based on brand alone, but the teams the Big 12 are adding are no slouches whatsoever. Oh.... and they all finished above Iowa too.
