Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[BigJCy]

This tweet was from 2011:

 

[2speedy1]

Didn’t B1G previously have a contiguous rule as well? If so, they ignored it for UCLA and USC.

Yes they did/do, but adding CO and AZ would fix it. They would be contiguous again. But byelaws can be changed so...

 

[Scruff]

Thoughts? Makes the UCF add look silly. Maybe add Va Tech and NCST?

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I have been thinking about this map exactly. There are other ACC leftovers that might surprise us too... looking at 1 of the 2 Florida schools to join UCF. Can't imagine the B1G is choosing them over other options. Most gossip I see from SEC land don't include either of them.

 

[clonedude]

Clemson, Florida State, and Miami all feel like they'll be in the SEC at some point IMO.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I have been thinking about this map exactly. There are other ACC leftovers that might surprise us too... looking at 1 of the 2 Florida schools to join UCF. Can't imagine the B1G is choosing them over other options. Most gossip I see from SEC land don't include either of them.

I agree and if we get to 16 here and then are able to add Syrcause, Pitt, Louisville, Miami after the SEC and B1G kill the ACC, that is a solid 20-school mid-tier conference. It is not a superconference but it is relevant and (if this is still a thing) it belongs to have its best team in the CFP alongside the B1G and SEC.

I don't see the SEC taking both Florida State and Miami especially in the face of the rumored gentleman's agreement that prohibited a second school from any SEC state joining the conference. Florida would have a conniption at TWO other in-state schools joining let alone one.

 

[2speedy1]

I don't know that it was a hard and fast rule as much as it was a hope.

It was in the byelaws, I had an old copy of the Big 10 byelaws at one point on PDF but dont know if I still have it. But a vote would be all that is needed to change it, just like a vote to add. etc.

 

[Kinch]

So we're concluding that ESPN is telling the SEC who to grab, and Fox is telling the B1G who to grab?

Yes. Yes.

 

[alarson]

This tweet was from 2011:

And it makes sense. No longer are conferences or their presidents truly driving the bus here. All these decisions are being driven by these two networks.

 

[Scruff]

B1G looking at: ND, Stanford, Cal, UNC, Virginia, Washington, Oregon, GTech, Kansas, Pittsburgh
SEC looking at: Clemson, NCSt, VT, UNC, Duke, Florida St, Miami

I'm not sure how many more they each take, but there are a lot of leftovers if the rich schools in the ACC get squeamish... and you know they already are!

 

[Trice]

Part of me wants this to all work out somehow.... for ISU's sake.

The other part of me doesn't care if it all comes crumbling down.... and the greed destroys college sports completely. I generally like for there to be consequences to one's actions. All these actions are ruining college athletics, so I'd like for there to be some huge negative consequences.

I like it when the people whose actions warrant consequences suffer those consequences. This is not that. The rest of us will be scrambling and the people/schools at the top will be fine, as always.

 

[Farnsworth]

I know, kinda being snippy with that. The teams that definitely could be in trouble are the schools that are doubled up in a state. Indy and Purdue, MSU and Michigan, NW and Illinois. No need to have the also ran school

I agree but if your saying MSU/Mich, Why not include Iowa, Iowa State

 

[jdoggivjc]

I hate Nebraska, but they are still a traditional power with a lot of fans. They just need the right coaching staff. Which I hope they never find.

Disagree. Nebraska became irrelevant once partial qualifiers were disallowed and they couldn't give scholarships to players that would never play a down for them for 4 years (basically being good because everyone felt it was better to never play a down for Nebraska than it was to be a 4-year starter anywhere else).

In this era of college football, Nebraska can't even carry Iowa's jock - or are you saying the 20+ year search to find the "right coach" has been a total fluke?

 

[Scruff]

Even if the B1G/SEC don't keep exanding... we should be bringing in more revenue that the PAC without the LA market and on par with the terrible ACC contract lasting to eternity.

 

[Cloneon]

Yeah that's kind of my point. People are making a big deal out of media markets when they are generally irrelevant to college fan bases. They might get a large chunk of change for being in Chicago/New York now but when they try and go to streaming, how valuable will those schools be then?

I think it may end up back firing by either committing to traditional media for too long, or have assets that are no longer valuable when you take a way traditional media lenses

Agree. Draw a circle around Chicago with a Radius of Ames and how many B1G fall inside the circle or outside.

 

[JP4CY]

I haven't read thru much of the KU thread but you'd think the B1G would atleast think hard about them.

 

[RustShack]

Agree, the conference leadership panicked when they added UCF and UH. Should have added Cincinnati and BYU and waited for something like this to happen which wasn't unforseen.

Can’t the Big12 pull the offer to Houston or UCF if they wanted? No new media contract or GoR has been signed, that I’m aware of.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Can’t the Big12 pull the offer to Houston or UCF if they wanted? No new media contract or GoR has been signed, that I’m aware of.

Not without paying a lot of money, since they already told the AAC they're leaving. They could sue and win.

 

[Farnsworth]

If I am the Big 12 i would go after the ACC schools hard. Specially the basketball schools. If we arent going to be in one of the 2 super leagues for football, we can sure as hell make the premier super league for basketball.

It would be fun but football drives all.

 

[Clonehomer]

Ultimately not great timing for the Big12 to be breaking in a new commish.

 

[clonedude]

I like it when the people whose actions warrant consequences suffer those consequences. This is not that. The rest of us will be scrambling and the people/schools at the top will be fine, as always.

Agree. The only way it doesn't work out for the B1G and SEC is if the rest of the fans in the country quit watching the B1G and SEC.... but I'm not even sure if that's enough people to move the needle?