2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class

[isucy86]

Why not an old school line-up of Osun, T. King, and Kunc, with whichever 2 guards fit, hopefully including AJG?

If we don't get AJG, we could see that lineup if Tre can make around 35% of his 3 point shots.

TJ is about taking advantage of matchups when possible. And playing Tre King at the 3 could create a mismatch if a team plays 3 shorter guard. Likewise, TJ will shuffle his lineup to matchup defensively.

An example where a lineup with: Osunniyi, Kunc/Ward & T King makew sense is Baylor if they play Thamba, Tchatchoua, Flagler, Cryer & Bonner (post up Tre King). Or if Baylor plays Thamba, Tchatchoua, Bridges/George/Love, Flagler & Cryer (King matches up with the bigger wing plus Williams, Holmes or Green could post up Flagler/Cryer.

 

[Cyforce]

If we don't get AJG, we could see that lineup if Tre can make around 35% of his 3 point shots.

TJ is about taking advantage of matchups when possible. And playing Tre King at the 3 could create a mismatch if a team plays 3 shorter guard. Likewise, TJ will shuffle his lineup to matchup defensively.

An example where a lineup with: Osunniyi, Kunc/Ward & T King makew sense is Baylor if they play Thamba, Tchatchoua, Flagler, Cryer & Bonner (post up Tre King). Or if Baylor plays Thamba, Tchatchoua, Bridges/George/Love, Flagler & Cryer (King matches up with the bigger wing plus Williams, Holmes or Green could post up Flagler/Cryer.

It would make us very thin in the front-court.

 

[CyPunch]

So, does McCullar picking Kansas affect Hunter in any way?

I don't think Tyrese is going to Kansas

 

[Cyforce]

I don't think Tyrese is going to Kansas

I think we have a roster that would frustrate Hunter. Williams on ball and Osun at the rim.

 

[CoachHines3]

I think we have a roster that would frustrate Hunter. Williams on ball and Osun at the rim.

Osun would put his nuts in tyrese's face as he swats the ball into the 5th row.

 

[Halincandenza]

Jalen Wilson staying in the draft would be a poor life decision.

I think it just depends on what he wants. Maybe he just wants to start a professional career. There is nothing wrong with that whether it be in the GL or overseas

 

[Halincandenza]

In theory that was there last open Scholarship… but for a talent like Hunter they would still take him and figure it out.

Also, sounds like if they don't get Hunter, they will look to get Ramey if doesn't stay in the draft.

 

[cycfan1]

I think it just depends on what he wants. Maybe he just wants to start a professional career. There is nothing wrong with that whether it be in the GL or overseas

I guess.
If anything KU has proven to be able to develop these type of players into stars by senior year.
I don't think theres going to be that kind of patience for an undersized forward that can't shoot in the GL.

 

[Halincandenza]

I guess.
If anything KU has proven to be able to develop these type of players into stars by senior year.
I don't think theres going to be that kind of patience for an undersized forward that can't shoot in the GL.

Apparently he has been shooting well in workouts and shot it well in GL combine and in NBA combine so far. I agree though, if I were him I would keep working on the shot in school where I could get NIL money and then hopefully become a draft pick next year.

 

[TopCy]

I guess.
If anything KU has proven to be able to develop these type of players into stars by senior year.
I don't think theres going to be that kind of patience for an undersized forward that can't shoot in the GL.

I would see it the opposite. The GL is a place where no one cares if you win. It seems like they would have nothing but patience. You spend as many hours a day as you want working on whatever skills you are deficient at with a coaching staff that is plugged directly into the NBA, and then play games against high-level competition where you can show off without looking like a selfish player. Plus you get paid without jumping through any hoops.

 

[isucy86]

It would make us very thin in the front-court.

So we would still have Osunniyi, Ward, Jones & Kunc to play 4/5 minutes while Tre King plays the 3. If for some reason we would be thin at the 4/5 due to injuries or foul trouble- then you don't flex King to play minutes at 3 to create a mismatch or matchup.

Sometimes it is worth shaking things up from a lineup perspective during a game to make the opponent react or break their momentum. I would like to see us play a big lineup and some zone against some of the weaker non-con opponents. Never know when they might work against a Big12 team.

 

[Cyforce]

So we would still have Osunniyi, Ward, Jones & Kunc to play 4/5 minutes while Tre King plays the 3. If for some reason we would be thin at the 4/5 due to injuries or foul trouble- then you don't flex King to play minutes at 3 to create a mismatch or matchup.

Sometimes it is worth shaking things up from a lineup perspective during a game to make the opponent react or break their momentum. I would like to see us play a big lineup and some zone against some of the weaker non-con opponents. Never know when they might work against a Big12 team.

You got 3 fives and Kunc. That's pretty thin.

 

[isucy86]

You got 3 fives and Kunc. That's pretty thin.

Ward or who knows - maybe Watson will be ready to play minutes at 4.

We are talking about matching up against certain lineups or certain opponents by playing King at 3. So how would we be thin if Kunc plays 20-25mpg at 4 and Ward, Watson or Tre King fill the rest of the minutes.

You are scarred by the Steve Prohm (and Fred Hoiberg) approach that there is only 1 way to win. Good teams can win by out-defending or out-scoring or out-rebounding or getting to the line or etc... Only playing small ball and outshooting every opponent isn't the recipe for a consistent NCAA Tournament type program.

 

[Cyforce]

Ward or who knows - maybe Watson will be ready to play minutes at 4.

We are talking about matching up against certain lineups or certain opponents by playing King at 3. So how would we be thin if Kunc plays 20-25mpg at 4 and Ward, Watson or Tre King fill the rest of the minutes.

You are scarred by the Steve Prohm (and Fred Hoiberg) approach that there is only 1 way to win. Good teams can win by out-defending or out-scoring or out-rebounding or getting to the line or etc... Only playing small ball and outshooting every opponent isn't the recipe for a consistent NCAA Tournament type program.

King would play the 4 over Watson. Ward would hurt us offensively at the four. In an ideal situation King and Kunc could each play 30 minutes giving us 20 minutes of both of them on the floor together.

Only thing I'm scared of is not having a solid big available because Kunc and King are in foul trouble. Wouldn't it be better to just let them play the positions they were meant to?

 

[isucy86]

King would play the 4 over Watson. Ward would hurt us offensively at the four. In an ideal situation King and Kunc could each play 30 minutes giving us 20 minutes of both of them on the floor together.

Only thing I'm scared of is not having a solid big available because Kunc and King are in foul trouble. Wouldn't it be better to just let them play the positions they were meant to.

I'm looking to play the best 5. I'm not going into the 2022/23 seasons with any preconceived perceptions what will be our best lineup. It could be King at the 4. It could be King at the 3. It could be the ability to flex King between the 3/4 positions.

To not play our best starting lineup because you are concerned about depth issues is worrying about something that might not happen. Why would Ward hurt us playing the 4? If you are looking to play 4 out/1 in, sure. But as stated in a prior post, the Steve Prohm or Fred Hoiberg way isn't the only way to win games!

There are elite teams that win a lot of games playing 2 bigs. Go high/low with the 2 posts and let the other 3 guys hunt jump shots or back cuts. IMO, playing 2 posts can create just as much space for wing jump shooters as playing 1 post.

 

[Cyforce]

I'm looking to play the best 5. I'm not going into the 2022/23 seasons with any preconceived perceptions what will be our best lineup. It could be King at the 4. It could be King at the 3. It could be the ability to flex King between the 3/4 positions.

To not play our best starting lineup because you are concerned about depth issues is worrying about something that might not happen. Why would Ward hurt us playing the 4? If you are looking to play 4 out/1 in, sure. But as stated in a prior post, the Steve Prohm or Fred Hoiberg way isn't the only way to win games!

There are elite teams that win a lot of games playing 2 bigs. Go high/low with the 2 posts and let the other 3 guys hunt jump shots or back cuts. IMO, playing 2 posts can create just as much space for wing jump shooters as playing 1 post.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[heitclone]

The 4 spot will be interesting until King is eligible. Jazz can give you big minutes but someone else is going to have to play. Ward can likely handle it defensively but that lineup is going to struggle on offense. It can probably get by for most of the non con but there are 4 or 5 teams that would take advantage for sure. The other option would be some kind of small ball.

 

[Kaner04]

Ward and Osunniyi on the court together shouldn’t even be an option unless one of them has a hidden three point shot.

 

[Cyforce]

The 4 spot will be interesting until King is eligible. Jazz can give you big minutes but someone else is going to have to play. Ward can likely handle it defensively but that lineup is going to struggle on offense. It can probably get by for most of the non con but there are 4 or 5 teams that would take advantage for sure. The other option would be some kind of small ball.

I think Gabe will get the bulk of the backup 4 minutes until King is eligible.

 

[LLCoolCY]

ISU with 2

(and AJ decision still pending)