2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class

[CyPunch]

Been some buzz today that Green is headed to Duke. Might be just pure speculation with Joey Baker leaving.

If your buzz is the Duke insider crystal ball, no there hasn't

 

[WhoISthis]

I'd take 170

I think we’ll be top-100

 

[Statefan10]

If your buzz is the Duke insider crystal ball, no there hasn't

It’s the crystal ball thrown out by someone with not a great % who literally states it’s a very early prediction and says it’ll depend on what Keels does. That 247 guy didn’t even bring up Iowa State

 

[tomar1]

I've seen this a couple time - I don't think Holmes is a PG, at least not in TJ's system. I think Green is likely the backup PG, unless Lipsey forces his way onto the court.

King plays point too and he’s heck of an athlete and good shooter!

 

[tomar1]

What’s the ISU Bart Torvik rank if you start Williams, Green, Holmes compared to Green, Holmes, Gabe.

Some would say initiator. But I don’t see the offense being as good with Holmes defended as the primary ball handler, than it will be with Holmes (along with Green) exploiting the wing and off ball defenders once the pg initiated. Both those “combos” are guys that have the handle and scoring mindset to capitalize on a defense reacting more than they are facilitating and initiating the offense.
Which is good as the 3rd guard with Williams and Green, as Williams is not stuck having to do as much creating with the ball as Hunter.

Why make Holmes or Green worse, on defense and offense, just so you can add Gabe, a guard with poor handling, and poor shooting? Williams is a better defender than Holmes and will likely be asked to defend pgs. It’s either Gabe or Holmes imo.

Williams getting on ball screens (he’ll be good at PnR with Osun/Ward) or Williams-Kunc. Green will have to be covered. Defenses may risk Holmes being open or played off, but he’ll then go to work. “Good” Gabe will too

Watson at the 4 while King is out, with Kunc at 5, would be an interesting offense. Obviously green and Holmes will chip in on pg duties, but imo Holmes working against a set defense to pass to Gabe is inferior to Williams working against a set defense passing to Holmes imo

Don’t see Kunc playing the 5 since we recruited 2 5’s that can score and block shots! Actually since Kunc rarely goes to the basket him playing the 3 makes more sense!

 

[tomar1]

I’m guessing TJ’s plan is to go with whatever is best for the team. Given the plan was to add Green even before Hunter left, the staff seems okay with adding Green and letting the players do what they’re best suited to do in the Big 12.

I doubt the feedback of NBA scouts has any causation in terms of our rotation and play, although there could be correlation. If AJG needs to show something that he can’t do as well here as his teammates can, he won’t be here. I don’t know what role he’d play at Duke. Is it overlap with pg?

I personally think Williams is a better fit in that regard, as you’re saying. It likely to means AJG gets the best of both. He can be as much or as little of pg as his talent will allow. Although with Hunter, if AJG isn’t ready to be a Big 12 pg, you can more readily hide it. No one would ask why didn’t he play more pg when joining his dad to try and make a run in his last season - a lot of plausible deniability

Was it better Prohm left scouts guessing whether Wigginton could be a pg, rather than to show them he wasn’t? Or if Prohm forces LW at pg, does he get drafted and we’re better? I think the former.
Luckily, the staff-player discussion on that will be better this time

I hope we have better ball handlers than GK or we’re in trouble!

 

[WhoISthis]

Don’t see Kunc playing the 5 since we recruited 2 5’s that can score and block shots!

I don’t either, but it would be one of our better offensive lineups.

TJ mentioned expanding Osun’s offense, so we’ll see what that means

 

[NENick]

Why not an old school line-up of Osun, T. King, and Kunc, with whichever 2 guards fit, hopefully including AJG?

 

[PeteyPablo]

Not sure if this was posted..247sports article

 

[LLCoolCY]

Not sure if this was posted..247sports article

I do feel that Williams has fallen a bit off our radar since he committed first what feels months ago and with out the fanfare. With Hunter leaving he is set for an important roll next year and has the body and game to grow into a solid Big 12 starter in a year under the staff.

 

[cyfan92]

Why not an old school line-up of Osun, T. King, and Kunc, with whichever 2 guards fit, hopefully including AJG?

Good Guards = Winning in college basketball. Good Forwards = Iowa Basketball

Gonzaga has BY FAR the best front court in the country last year. Got bounced in the Sweet 16 because they weren't as athletic or guard dominant as Arkansas.

KU won a national title with 4 guards and a center. Most winning teams in the past decade are guard dominant teams. You still need the center or PF to play the 5 and solidify rebounding and defense. But guards = winning

 

[Halincandenza]

Good Guards = Winning in college basketball. Good Forwards = Iowa Basketball

Gonzaga has BY FAR the best front court in the country last year. Got bounced in the Sweet 16 because they weren't as athletic or guard dominant as Arkansas.

KU won a national title with 4 guards and a center. Most winning teams in the past decade are guard dominant teams. You still need the center or PF to play the 5 and solidify rebounding and defense. But guards = winning

Nitpicking but I don't think you can Jalen Wilson a guard.

 

[cyfan92]

Nitpicking but I don't think you can Jalen Wilson a guard.

Wilson lives on the wing. I should have said 3 guards, a wing, and a center.

He has far more guard skills than forward skills

 

[Halincandenza]

Wilson lives on the wing. I should have said 3 guards, a wing, and a center.

He has far more guard skills than forward skills

Yeah I would say he is a wing.

 

[NENick]

Good Guards = Winning in college basketball. Good Forwards = Iowa Basketball

Gonzaga has BY FAR the best front court in the country last year. Got bounced in the Sweet 16 because they weren't as athletic or guard dominant as Arkansas.

KU won a national title with 4 guards and a center. Most winning teams in the past decade are guard dominant teams. You still need the center or PF to play the 5 and solidify rebounding and defense. But guards = winning

No doubt guards are key to winning national championships. I'm not sold that the Osun, King, Kunc line-up would be successful, but maybe for short periods. If King or Kunc can handle the ball well enough and defend well enough at the 3.

That doesn't mean a team that is not at the national championship level has to follow the current trend. I'd be fine with Gonzaga's consistent record. Or Purdue's. I think North Carolina kind of fits the multiple bigs model too.

Bottom line, get the 5 best players on the floor. It might force the opponent to adjust

 

[TheHelgo]

So, does McCullar picking Kansas affect Hunter in any way?

 

[LLCoolCY]

So, does McCullar picking Kansas affect Hunter in any way?

In theory that was there last open Scholarship… but for a talent like Hunter they would still take him and figure it out.

 

[nallen34]

In theory that was there last open Scholarship… but for a talent like Hunter they would still take him and figure it out.

Jalen Wilson could also be staying in the draft along with Braun.

 

[cycfan1]

Jalen Wilson could also be staying in the draft along with Braun.

Jalen Wilson staying in the draft would be a poor life decision.

 

[ForbinsAscynt]

In conference transfers feel so dirty. Unless there is bad blood I don’t understand why a kid that has other great opportunities makes that choice.