2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class
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All Iowa Attack (Ames AAU/grassroots team backed by Dickson Jensen) coach thanking Gabe and Grill for coming to speak with young kids.
Poster is implying that why would Gabe do that if he wasn't coming back.. Just my guess
Bates would 100% start over Ward. Iowa State has not had a player like Bates in a long time.
I think Bates has a much higher ceiling than Ward, especially on offense. Agree his skillset is probably more redundant with Ward's than Basile or Vander Plas though.
Ward is a great add but I've some some Cato comps for him which he just won't be. Bates on the other hand...yeah, that's a Cato level player.
Sure. I'm not going to defend the stats of our end-of-rotation guy against the players in the best conference in the country. I was just reacting to the idea that he was completely outmatched all year and should never play for us this year. I think that's ignoring the contributions he made. I'd be shocked if he doesn't play a role (maybe a smaller one) again for TJ this year.
How is Arkansas still looking for transfers? Aren't they at 19 on the roster right now?
Same question was asked 4 transfers ago. LOL.
Wichita St was very athletic Council, Dennis, Udeze etc.
When talking about Williams moving up the Big 12- the AAC is basically a lower P6 conference. He’s gone against HM athletes
For sure, I won't disagree there. I think he's good in a role where he can be used more in better matchups for him, probably against teams with a big/strong center, etc. I think it's pretty expected he'd have a smaller role next year, but barring something like getting two more posts in and Rob deciding himself he doesn't want to deal with that small of a role I can't see him not as a Cyclone next year.
FWIW at one time you only had 3yrs eligibility and if you transfered you had to sit out a year and lost that year as well.
King & Kunc might be close to the same size- but their skills differ. Kunc is a spot up jump shooter, he's not going to pound the ball and drive to the basket much. Tre King can get his shot off the dribble or spot up.
I keep hearing people talk about position-less basketball. Based on the motion ISU ran last season, it would be no issue to put Williams, Gabe/Grill, King, Kunc and Ward/Jones on the court at the same time.
Except defensively if a team has quick guards/wings that exploit King/Kunc/Ward. It seems like the team that goes small/quick usually has the upper hand in exploiting mismatches - unless the bigger team can really control/own the offensive glass.
I’m not too worried about King and Ward defensively even against smaller / quicker lineups. They have the length and athleticism to negate a lot of that.
No one has said their skills don’t differ. In fact, the opposite was implied. But they will still compete for minutes at the 4.
It’s about who you defend. Tre King isn’t ideal on defense or offense against the guards and wings you often find in the Big 12 at the 3. His best attributes are being more athletic and perimeter skilled than bigs. Moving him to the wing mitigates his athletic and skill advantages. You just made him positionally slower with worse skills than if at the 4. Get a bigger guard for the three. Maybe Ricky Council or Eric Hunter. Or if we sign another pg, Williams. Or Watson.
King at the three adds size and length. But on offense that doesn’t do much. You could try to post him up like we used to with Kane, but with Ward, Jones, or a guy like Bates are at the 5, plus Gabe and Williams, that’s a congested offense. On defense, the wing needs to be able to defend the guards. That’s not King’s best role.
Scotty made comments a couple weeks ago that described more of the Ejim role
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You’re getting carried away with no position stuff
He can defend 1-5, at times. Very briefly.
He isn’t guarding all equitably. He isn’t a 1 or 2 or 3. TT has positions. They don’t want their 5 on guards. They can manage until switching back at times.
King the same in the context of playing the wing
