Big 12 Refs, Man... Technicals Out of Hand

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Players should know they can't exhibit any emotion and need to act like robots.
 

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You mean that the refs stink all the time and not just in Kansas games? It's like I have been saying this for years...
 
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That doesn't fit into the "the Big 12 refs are in the pocket of KU" conspiracy theory. If you go read the sites of other fan bases in other conferences, they think the refs calling their games all suck, too.
How may other fan sites do you go to?
 

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Refs forcing emotions out of games is a problem across all sports and frankly makes every game a bit more boring as a viewer as well.
 
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The Morning Rush talked about this a little today. The reason you see refs like Higgins doing so many games right now is there is a shortage of officials. Travis said that JH has told him the average age of a D1 ref is like 56 so in the next 5-10 years when these guys start to retire if there are not more good refs that start getting into the profession now we may see a big drop off in quality and a noticeable shortage of refs at the HS and lower college levels because now those currently reffing at those levels are going to have to be elevated to the higher levels to fill the void. Basically we could have HS games getting postponed down the road because there are not enough refs available on a given night to cover all the games.

It's a bad situation, you hear that the reason a lot of people don't want to get into refereeing at the lower levels is because of the verbal abuse they take by nasty parents and coaches. Something to think about next time we are at kids sports games and someone is laying into an official. They are human too and are going to miss calls and make mistakes but we need people to get into officiating at those level to develop and possibly work their way up the ranks so we have quality replacements in the pipeline when the others quit or retire.
 
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How may other fan sites do you go to?
Over the course of this season, I have read probably a dozen or so different fan message boards and have seen complaints about the refs on all of them. SEC fans, ACC fans, PAC 12 fans, other Big 12 fans. It's a universal feeling that ncaa refs frequently aren't as good at their job as fans would like them to be.
 

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Refs forcing emotions out of games is a problem across all sports and frankly makes every game a bit more boring as a viewer as well.
The refs allowing games to dissolve into wrestling matches in the first half and then over-correcting by calling a million ticky tack fouls in the 2nd half to try to get control of the players has become particularly frustrating and common.
 

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The Morning Rush talked about this a little today. The reason you see refs like Higgins doing so many games right now is there is a shortage of officials. Travis said that JH has told him the average age of a D1 ref is like 56 so in the next 5-10 years when these guys start to retire if there are not more good refs that start getting into the profession now we may see a big drop off in quality and a noticeable shortage of refs at the HS and lower college levels because now those currently reffing at those levels are going to have to be elevated to the higher levels to fill the void. Basically we could have HS games getting postponed down the road because there are not enough refs available on a given night to cover all the games.

It's a bad situation, you hear that the reason a lot of people don't want to get into refereeing at the lower levels is because of the verbal abuse they take by nasty parents and coaches. Something to think about next time we are at kids sports games and someone is laying into an official. They are human too and are going to miss calls and make mistakes but we need people to get into officiating at those level to develop and possibly work their way up the ranks so we have quality replacements in the pipeline when the others quit or retire.
Refs like these have always done 4-6 games per week.
 

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Tuco coming in hot today in defense of the integrity of big 12 officiating...

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The Morning Rush talked about this a little today. The reason you see refs like Higgins doing so many games right now is there is a shortage of officials. Travis said that JH has told him the average age of a D1 ref is like 56 so in the next 5-10 years when these guys start to retire if there are not more good refs that start getting into the profession now we may see a big drop off in quality and a noticeable shortage of refs at the HS and lower college levels because now those currently reffing at those levels are going to have to be elevated to the higher levels to fill the void. Basically we could have HS games getting postponed down the road because there are not enough refs available on a given night to cover all the games.

It's a bad situation, you hear that the reason a lot of people don't want to get into refereeing at the lower levels is because of the verbal abuse they take by nasty parents and coaches. Something to think about next time we are at kids sports games and someone is laying into an official. They are human too and are going to miss calls and make mistakes but we need people to get into officiating at those level to develop and possibly work their way up the ranks so we have quality replacements in the pipeline when the others quit or retire.

I don't disagree with what you are saying but the shortage of labor excuse is getting worn out.
 
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Tuco coming in hot today in defense of the integrity of big 12 officiating...

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It has nothing to due with any specific conference. I just think refs in general are overworked, have less continuity due to working games with different refs on a regular basis, don't pay enough attention to any type of consistency and frequently make themselves into too much of a participant in the game.

And because they never have to answer for what they do, it isn't going to get any better.
 

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It has nothing to due with any specific conference. I just think refs in general are overworked, have less continuity due to working games with different refs on a regular basis, don't pay enough attention to any type of consistency and frequently make themselves into too much of a participant in the game.

And because they never have to answer for what they do, it isn't going to get any better.
You really want them answering questions after KU games? I doubt Billy does.
 

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While true it is mainly the same officials going from Big 12 game to Big 12 game - Higgins, Pollard, Sermon, the lady, etc.

They all work multiple leagues. These guys are working like 5-6 nights a week, which is a whole other problem.
 

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Over the course of this season, I have read probably a dozen or so different fan message boards and have seen complaints about the refs on all of them. SEC fans, ACC fans, PAC 12 fans, other Big 12 fans. It's a universal feeling that ncaa refs frequently aren't as good at their job as fans would like them to be.
A dozen or so message boards? Yeesh.
 
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The flop warning has gotten dumb too. I was watching Texas/TTU where they mentioned one is issued in about every game but neither announcer had seen them call a flop after that. Seems to me they just issue a warning as a matter of course towards the beginning then let it go after that. I also think the whole thing is way too subjective.
 
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