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WILLIAMS: Analyzing Iowa State’s NCAA Tournament situation after a big week

Absolutely phenomenal week for our tournament hopes. They go on the road and grind out a huge win then come home and run away from another team fighting for their lives.

I think the K-State loss is the only thing keeping us from being a lock now but I think we get them in Manhattan next week.
 
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ISUTex said:
We don't need to beat WVU to make the play in game. Beating WVU and OSU, in my opinion, could put us anywherw from7-9 seed range. Win a game or two in KC, who knows. Lose to WVU, and we might get knocked down to the play in game.
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Why is it that everyone goes from like 7-9 to straight to the play in game? Are we not eligible for a 10/11/12 non play in spot?
 
ISUTex said:
We don't need to beat WVU to make the play in game. Beating WVU and OSU, in my opinion, could put us anywherw from7-9 seed range. Win a game or two in KC, who knows. Lose to WVU, and we might get knocked down to the play in game.
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We have 5 conference wins right now. Wins against WVU, KSU and OSU are big since those are the teams we are fighting to move up the Big12 standings.

IMO finishing above KSU, TCU, etc. solidifies out argument to the selection committee. I would relax a lot more on selection Sunday if we finish 6/7 vs 8/9.
 
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jereseib said:
Absolutely phenomenal week for our tournament hopes. They go on the road and grind out a huge win then come home and run away from another team fighting for their lives.

I think the K-State loss is the only thing keeping us from being a lock now but I think we get them in Manhattan next week.
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We are a lock right now. We need 2 more wins. Which we will get.
 
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isucy86 said:
We have 5 conference wins right now. Wins against WVU, KSU and OSU are big since those are the teams we are fighting to move up the Big12 standings.

IMO finishing above KSU, TCU, etc. solidifies out argument to the selection committee. I would relax a lot more on selection Sunday if we finish 6/7 vs 8/9.
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Yes, but beating WVU isn't going to put us in the play in game. We are a higher seed than 11 right now. That was my point.
 
Cyforce said:
We're better than KSt so it's really 2 out of the next three but winning our next home game is vital.
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I get we blew a big lead, but your statement is hard to prove. Having said that, I hope we can go there and get some payback. First things first....still think WV win is a must for lots of reasons. Gabe and supporting cast are going to have to make the game tougher for Taz Sherman.
 
We have a favorable schedule remaining as everyone knows. Some of the other teams middle of the pack right now have some really hard schedules. I think it’s possible we finish as high as 5th in the conference.

OSU and TCU could very possibly lose 4 more each. kSU maybe 3 if we can pick up a win there. I think that is most important remaining game.
 
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Conference records need to be thrown out but I know they wont. Why are we putting grades on wins if people then over focus on conference games? A quad 1 nonconference should equal a quad 1 conference and a crappy nonconference win should mean the same as a crappy conference win. 18 wins with 8 quad ones should be a lock
 
Cyforce said:
Subjective statements are always hard to prove. If we win the next 3 we'll finish ahead of KSt and TCU.
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oh sure, I can agree with that. Just never like our chances when 'at' Kstate
 
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Maybe but 6-13 in conference you don't have any ***** if you don't.
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Conference record doesn't matter though. In the last real season tournament (2019), here are the teams that got in at 19 wins. With how hard our schedule is and Q1 record, you can bet your ass we are in with 1 more win.

Baylor: 9
Oklahoma: 9
Florida: 10
Ohio St.: 11

None of these were automatic bids, and none were in the play-in game.
 
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1 more and we’re at least in a play-in game. 2 more were a lock for the round of 64.
 
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NATEizKING said:
Conference record doesn't matter though. In the last real season tournament (2019), here are the teams that got in at 19 wins. With how hard our schedule is and Q1 record, you can bet your ass we are in with 1 more win.

Baylor: 9
Oklahoma: 9
Florida: 10
Ohio St.: 11

None of these were automatic bids, and none were in the play-in game.
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Who's the last at large to get in minus seven in conference?
 
Avoid bad home losses to WVU and OSU and I don't think you're sweating on Selection Sunday. K State is very beatable in Manhattan, especially since their thin bubble hopes should be dashed. Weirder things have happened than us winning in Waco, too.

Ideally we are in a position to avoid the 8-9 game in KC and maybe snag another win there.

I'm just glad we even are in this position. There's been very frustrating parts of this season but no one thought we'd be talking tournament right now.
 
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Cyforce said:
Who's the last at large to get in minus seven in conference?
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We'd be such a unicorn case, having gone undefeated. If we won one more game and went 6-12 in conference, I think we'd be squarely on the bubble, but Q1 wins matter a lot.
 
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