Again we are talking hypotheticals which that case you could argue anything. All I’m saying is NIL doesn’t apply to title nine and there isn’t any pending litigation on it.
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The only thing that is going to soften this blow is Manning demoted and a ST coach is hired.
In any single one of my posts did I indicate that there was pending litigation? Odd you run with the reading comprehension while at the same time displaying a stunning lack of reading comprehension.
To be fair, you saying “Coaches need to figure out ways of building teams for the 21st century and they'd better get creative soon.” Is like saying these mom and pop stores need to figure out how to compete with Amazon. It’s true, but equally difficult and probably unrealistic.
I was just summarizing what others said, not offering my own opinion. My own opinion is that this is probably one of those things people rationalize because we "trust" our coaches but as soon as we lose a game we shouldn't next fall due to youth, inexperience, or depth issues everyone will point to all the people who left as the reason why.
I agree with this. Young made some huge plays and big-time hits in the run game. But Freyler, McDonald and Eisworth were better at making tackles in space, whether it be in the run game or short passing game.
I love Young, and he is a really good player, but he was much less a consistent tackler than the other safeties. No shame in that, those guys were all REALLY good tacklers. In fact, I thought Freyler and McDonald were the best tacklers as safeties.
I get that the players deserve some compensation. There seems to be little regulation or control on the whole NIL thing. I like capitalism when I am buying cheap sh^t at Walmart, but wasn't really healthy for the main street small businesses across America. Not saying I have the solution, and maybe NIL isn't even the issues but hard to believe it will be healthy for most college football programs. Programs like ISU will be hurt and the disparity in quality of players, TV money and fan support between those programs and ones like Alabama, Texas etc will widen. So then do we end up with about 10-20 really powerful programs and a bunch of others trying to hang on like a local hardware store with greatly reduced resources, fan attendance etc. Guess we will find out. And I am not going to a Texas game where I have to make my own nachos and poor my own drink at the self-serve concession stand inside the stadium, had enough self-checkout at Walmart LOL.
And in our defense the safeties must tackle in space. The ball carriers are funneled to the alleys for the safeties to make plays.
They do deserve compensation. Like free tuition, room and board, books and meals.
The post you were replying to was a post I had replied to about pending legislation. Get that you probably didn’t read the whole thread first before responding but that’s where I was going with that. Again going to agree to disagree on this but we are in a very litigious society so at some point their will be a lawsuit but I don’t think it goes anywhere and as it stands currently NIL funds aren’t subject to title none since they come from private companies or individuals.
That is below the market value for many division 1 football players.
I think where it could come into play is if we start seeing AD revenue from sources other donations (which can target intent) start going toward football at a rate that could be considered disproportionate. Where this might happen is boosters divert their dollars from the AD directly to players via NIL. Now to adjust, ADs still keep up the arms race, and their non-donor revenue gets spent at a crazy high rate on football projects, with no cover of "donor intent" as they had in the past.
Whether there will be any legs to these types of cases, I'm not sure. I think as long as direct payments are still not occurring that will be the roundabout way to tie a Title 9 case to NIL.
I think this is the next step of that "semi-pro" football league that has been talked about. Very few P5 teams can compete with other schools like LSU, Texas, Bama, USC, etc in terms of coaching salary or NIL $.
I believe that cat is out of the bag on that already and there will be no going back. So how do places like ISU deal with the new reality?
Valid point. Right now I know of at least 3 big ten schools that are instructing business owning donors to focus on NIL instead of donations to the AD. Donors are mostly still just donating it to the AD because it is less work but the tides might shift on that.
IMO at some point in my lifetime there will be a split where the blue bloods break off in pursuit of that sweet, sweet TV $$. The average fan will quickly lose interest outside of the Southeast and fans of those specific teams, but it won't stop the cash grab. I do think, however, that just enshrining the haves and have-nots into different leagues/divisions/whatever you want to call it would eventually be more healthy for those who don't make it in. People won't give up their fanhood for the school they've cheered on for decades to watch a group they can't even in theory compete with anymore.
However many AD's are match makers on these NIL deals. This is where the litigators are going to dive deep. There is an investigation into the Texas o-line NIL already by the NCAA as an apparent pay to play scheme that is prohibited by the NCAA. It is literally the wild west with NIL and there is already significant dialogue how the ad's are mainly promoting NIL deals with revenue sport athletes. This is going to be an issue with Title 9.
Just have to switch up one word in our recruiting pitch:
"Our players are often able to leave early to sign NFL contracts"... to....
"Our players are often able to leave early to sign SEC contracts"
That's a great point and analogy. Those mom and pop stores that survived found a formula that works and they attract customers. Same will have to happen in the new era of college football. Coaches are really going to have to build relationships, create a culture, be constantly recruiting and retaining.
