Breaking down the UNI Panthers

[Trice]

As Chris said in this week's podcast, I want to beat them very badly. Like, over by the middle of the second quarter badly.

But I don't just want that, we need it. If we're in contention for a playoff spot by season's end and Campbell is politicking for the committee to include us, his job is a lot easier if he could focus on hyping our big wins and not trying to explain away lackluster performances.

The media is going to latch on to any reason it can to doubt ISU. Don't hand them ammunition by dicking around with inferior opponents like this.

 

[NorthCyd]

It's the same story every year. UNI will sell out on the run. ISU typically plays right into that hoping they can show their dominance and run over them. ISU can't dominate them up front and before ISU knows what happened they are in a dog fight. Question will be is our line ready to dominate a team that is throwing everything at stopping the run? I hope so, otherwise it will be a close game in the second half.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Thanks for the info.

A few questions:

Is the roster on the UNI website that says 2021 for the spring or is the fall one on there? I was looking for a true freshman who is redshirting but I didn't find him on the roster.

What are the odds that Chase's little brother will see game action at TE?

Does FCS have the same rule about redshirting players getting to play a limited number of games without blowing the redshirt opportunity?

The 2021 roster that is up there is for the Fall. The spring roster is under 2020.

Alex Allen is the definite number 3. He may see the field on special teams or because of injury but I haven't heard that he's made any headway as far as seeing the field consistently.

FCS does have the same 4 game rule the FBS does. UNI has not used it much, Logan Wolf is the exception to that but he would have played the whole year but got hurt. Also, the spring season did not count against eligibility so you're RS Srs are 6th year guys and your RS Jrs are 5th year guys. UNI actually has two FBS Grad Transfers that are playing their 7th year. It's nuts.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

It's the same story every year. UNI will sell out on the run. ISU typically plays right into that hoping they can show their dominance and run over them. ISU can't dominate them up front and before ISU knows what happened they are in a dog fight. Question will be is our line ready to dominate a team that is throwing everything at stopping the run? I hope so, otherwise it will be a close game in the second half.

UNI's biggest defensive strength is up front and they just flat don't get dominated up there. Experienced depth matters. Iowa State needs to decide it's okay to throw the ball early.

 

[NickTheGreat]

I want Brock and Breece to not play in the 4th quarter. As in, a very comfortable lead going into half, and taking it easy from then on out.

 

[VeloClone]

UNI's biggest defensive strength is up front and they just flat don't get dominated up there. Experienced depth matters. Iowa State needs to decide it's okay to throw the ball early.

That can be problematic. I did notice you said this about your ends.

DE- UNI tends to look for length and athleticism at the end spot and tends to look for pass rushers over run stoppers. Should see four guys get the majority of the snaps
93 Caden Houghtelling (So, 6-5 255) (Cambridge, NE)
91 Brawntae Wells (Sr, 6-4 300) (Dowling)
8 Devin Rice (RS So, 6-3 255) (Liberty, MO)
96 Cannon Butler (RS Fr, 6-7 215) (Waterloo Columbus)

Do you think this offense's and Hall's ability to run to the edge (along with liberal use of TEs) as well as run right at you will present a problem to DEs that are pass rushers rather than run stoppers?

 

[KennyPratt42]

As Chris said in this week's podcast, I want to beat them very badly. Like, over by the middle of the second quarter badly.

But I don't just want that, we need it. If we're in contention for a playoff spot by season's end and Campbell is politicking for the committee to include us, his job is a lot easier if he could focus on hyping our big wins and not trying to explain away lackluster performances.

The media is going to latch on to any reason it can to doubt ISU. Don't hand them ammunition by dicking around with inferior opponents like this.

This is true to an extent. If we win by 20+ points it doesn't make a huge amount of difference past that, particularily by the end of the season. The committee or media aren't going to be parsing out whether we won by 17 or 34 against UNI at the end of the season, there'll be a lot more meaningful things to look at/talk about. If we have to make a 4th quarter comeback or win by one score that will absolutely get used against us though.

 

[Gunnerclone]

420-69 Cyclones win.

 

[Trice]

This is true to an extent. If we win by 20+ points it doesn't make a huge amount of difference past that, particularily by the end of the season. The committee or media aren't going to be parsing out whether we won by 17 or 34 against UNI at the end of the season, there'll be a lot more meaningful things to look at/talk about. If we have to make a 4th quarter comeback or win by one score that will absolutely get used against us though.

We've played UNI 15 times in the last 30 years. We've lost five times, and won by 20+ four times. I take nothing for granted.

 

[madguy30]

As Chris said in this week's podcast, I want to beat them very badly. Like, over by the middle of the second quarter badly.

But I don't just want that, we need it. If we're in contention for a playoff spot by season's end and Campbell is politicking for the committee to include us, his job is a lot easier if he could focus on hyping our big wins and not trying to explain away lackluster performances.

The media is going to latch on to any reason it can to doubt ISU. Don't hand them ammunition by dicking around with inferior opponents like this.

I'm not as much in the CFP hype as so much goes in to that but from a program stand point and lasting impressions if they make a difference in the realignment situation, this is a bit of a statement game.

If ISU comes out sharp and flying around and it's still a close game because UNI plays out of their minds, so be it. But if it's a slog with bad angles and alignment on defense and ISU screwing around on offense instead of just getting it done, that's disappointing.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

That can be problematic. I did notice you said this about your ends.



Do you think this offense's and Hall's ability to run to the edge (along with liberal use of TEs) as well as run right at you will present a problem to DEs that are pass rushers rather than run stoppers?

It is certainly the challenge for UNI. They are going to trust their two starting corners to play man on the outside and take their chances with it. The safeties are always very active in the run game and I think he'll try to roll them up a little more on the edge and use the bigger hybrids (Lambert and Andregg) to support there as well. I also think that Brawntae Wells gets more time at end than he usually would simply because he's 300 pounds.

Mark has also never been shy about thinking outside the box defensively so I wouldn't be shocked if he decided to play some 3 man front as well to get an extra linebacker on the field on running downs. Brinkman is good enough to allow him to do that in the middle.

 

[Cyched]

We've played UNI 15 times in the last 30 years. We've lost five times, and won by 20+ four times with the largest margin of victory at 27. I take nothing for granted.

Seneca's first team beat them 45-0 in '01. Hoping this year resembles that.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Seneca's first team beat them 45-0 in '01. Hoping this year resembles that.

It’s amazing how having one or five all-American level players can really change the trajectory of a match up.

 

[Trice]

Seneca's first team beat them 45-0 in '01. Hoping this year resembles that.

My bad, totally overlooked that. That was one of the four 20+ victories but whiffed on the highest margin being 27.

 

[CoachHines3]

As Chris said in this week's podcast, I want to beat them very badly. Like, over by the middle of the second quarter badly.

But I don't just want that, we need it. If we're in contention for a playoff spot by season's end and Campbell is politicking for the committee to include us, his job is a lot easier if he could focus on hyping our big wins and not trying to explain away lackluster performances.

The media is going to latch on to any reason it can to doubt ISU. Don't hand them ammunition by dicking around with inferior opponents like this.

media will crush us if its close.

put it on them.

 

[KennyPratt42]

We've played UNI 15 times in the last 30 years. We've lost five times, and won by 20+ four times with the largest margin of victory at 27. I take nothing for granted.

Absolutely agree, that's why I'm not going to start worrying about perception if we haven't blown them out by the second quarter. If we make it the 5th 20+ win that'll be just fine with me. Just get the win, hopefully comfortably, and move on to the rest of the schedule.

 

[psychlones]

My bad, totally overlooked that. (Though it was 41-0.)

Nope, 45-0. The page you're probably looking at on cyclones.com has it wrong, but if you click the link to the game summary it has the right score there. You'd think they could keep that stuff straight, but oh well.

 

[Cyched]

My bad, totally overlooked that. That was one of the four 20+ victories but whiffed on the highest margin being 27.

Granted it was 20 years ago, but I remember being at that game and could've sworn it was 45?

The score on Cyclones.com says 41-0, but the recap says 45:

Cyclones Overpower Northern Iowa in Season Opener, 45-0 - Iowa State University Athletics

AMES, Iowa (AP) - Quarterback Seneca Wallace ran for two touchdowns in his highly anticipated debut and Iowa State intercepted six passes in beating Northern...

cyclones.com

 

[Trice]

Nope, 45-0. The page you're probably looking at on cyclones.com has it wrong, but if you click the link to the game summary it has the right score there. You'd think they could keep that stuff straight, but oh well.

This is what I was looking at. Who'd have guessed they were wrong.

For a real treat, go back and look at the football schedule pages with results from past years and see the mistake they've never bothered to fix regarding Nebraska's logo.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

It was 45-0. Farley's first game at UNI.

Somehow Farley had enough smoke and mirrors to get that team to the semifinals.