West Virginia to the ACC makes sense geographically but their academics are horrible and I think that will keep them out of the ACC. IF the big ten adds schools it will be from either the Pac or wait a decade for the ACC. I can see a future for ISU in either the Pac or even the SEC if the winning continues.
Perspective from the Big Ten and some much needed clarifications
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By the mid 2030's the 64 team setup will have been formed and split away from the NCAA.
I didn't say leave. Dump teams and recreate a league with uneven distribution. If the logistics of dissolving the league can be figured out, it would be a huge windfall for these four that would dwarf anything adding teams to get to 16, 18 or 20 could do. None of the rest of the teams are net contributors to a league paying out $60M per team moving forward as viewership and interest becomes more prevalent. In fact, I would say not even close. ABC and FOX games for all the rest of the teams in the league (These included Neb. x1, MSU x3, Iowa x3, NW x2, Minn x1, Indiana x1, and Maryland x1) averaged fewer than 2 million viewers. So yes, those types of ratings on a network in a $60M per team league absolutely mean the other four are losing lots of money off these schools, let alone Illinois, Purdue and Rutgers.
Hoiberg was never shy about saying his ultimate goal was to coach in the NBA.
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If this is true, and Big 12 officials have an inkling about it, I cannot imagine hearing any discussions about adding BYU, Cincinnati, etc, as the resulting agreement would potentially be over such a short term that those schools wouldn't want any part of it. We would likely be hearing that they're moving forward as 8 united, to play out the term of their media contract.
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I agree with this - if it’s true (we can hope), the Big 12 should play as an 8-team conference for a little bit, and the B1G/Pac/ACC should be able to supply them games to fill up the schedule, with each team losing two conference games. Surely the 42 schools in those three leagues can find at least 16 games a year to play against the Big 12 (probably more like 20-something since we already play some of our usual non-cons against those leagues).
You know Oklahoma and Texas had a path to the championship which now gets much harder, right?
The problem is that the B1G, PAC, and ACC don't need those games. The 8 team setup will not work. When OU and Texas do leave the rest of the chips will fall in place.
I would genuinely rather be in a reconstituted Big XII than in the SEC. I don't want to be a participant in converting college football to semipro.
If we were to hold off on expansion, I'd still like to see Big XII teams play some games with AAC teams.
You keep saying this, but you don’t know what will happen when Disney starts buying brands.
I’d take the invite in a heartbeat because it would be good for the university compared to G5 obscurity and finances, but I think I’d hate it the whole time. Their priorities as institutions clearly aren’t in line with ISU’s.
I think I agree that the most likely outcome is OU and UT leave at the same time as everyone else - if everyone has somewhere to go - but the idea that the other conferences don’t “need” the games doesn’t really make sense. Like I said, it’s a grand total of 16 new games for the 42 schools in those leagues. We are talking about 1 in every 3 of those schools adding in a single Big 12 non-con opponent. If those leagues wanted to keep the Big 12 schools valuable before they swooped in and added them, this would be easy to do.
Not sure how it benefits those conferences from getting into a scheduling agreement with the 8. Maybe we see a long range deal like ISU has with Iowa if there is geographic or traditional basis for playing annually e.g. CU & KSU schedule a home/road or ISU & Mizzou schedule a home/road for a period like 10 years
Would also think independents like Army, BYU, UConn would benefit from a 8 team Big12 by creating multi-year agreements.
A PAC scheduling alliance could be pretty beneficial for them.
None of those conferences want the Big 12 to exist going forward, they aren't going to throw the conference a bone and give up a possible playoff slot.
I'm really tired of the revisionist history of people claiming that Hoiberg said he was going to stay at ISU for the long haul. He never said that. Anyone who was honest with him/herself knew Hoiberg was going to take the "right" NBA job if it was ever offered. The only issue I have is he went to the Bulls, because he was never going to be successful there.
That’s it. I’m watching super troopers tonight
