Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Triggermv]

Nope.

Aquaman is just Buck Rogers and the 25th Century plus 40 years and no Queen soundtrack.

It's terrible.

I'm not shocked to hear someone say this at all for all the exact same reasons I put forth in my description of both Venom and Aquaman. In fact, I didn't exactly love either movie the first time I saw them. However, I found that once I kind of recognized them for what they were, adjusted my expectations, they then both started to grow on me. I've found over the years that my sentiment on some movies are simply what they are based on my assumptions for what I wanted them to be going in. Then, when they didn't match up, I find myself not enjoying them. Well, sometimes you can tweak a bit of that on subsequent viewings and things can sometimes change, and sometimes not. Shoot, I didn't even really love both Ace Ventura and Dumb and Dumber on first viewings, but that changed as well.

 

[enisthemenace]

Rewatched Spider-Man: Homecoming over the weekend due to some earlier discussion. I did like it better with another viewing. Far from Home is still kind is a turd in my book.

 

[clone4life82]

Rewatched Spider-Man: Homecoming over the weekend due to some earlier discussion. I did like it better with another viewing. Far from Home is still kind is a turd in my book.

did you get a little Peter tingle watching it?

 

[BryceC]

Kirby penciled virtually everything during the birth of Marvel and needless to say the style is perfect for some and not so hot for others.

Kirby's pencils are great. I'm not a big fan when he starts having a lot of influence over the story, because things get real weird, real fast.

 

[BryceC]

I'm not shocked to hear someone say this at all for all the exact same reasons I put forth in my description of both Venom and Aquaman. In fact, I didn't exactly love either movie the first time I saw them. However, I found that once I kind of recognized them for what they were, adjusted my expectations, they then both started to grow on me. I've found over the years that my sentiment on some movies are simply what they are based on my assumptions for what I wanted them to be going in. Then, when they didn't match up, I find myself not enjoying them. Well, sometimes you can tweak a bit of that on subsequent viewings and things can sometimes change, and sometimes not. Shoot, I didn't even really love both Ace Ventura and Dumb and Dumber on first viewings, but that changed as well.

My only problem with Aquaman is that it's way, way too long. I agree it's kind of a romp (I mean the whole thing centers around Patrick Wilson becoming the "Oceanmaster" of all things) but a fun romp needs to be much less bloated.

 

[Rural]

Kirby's pencils are great. I'm not a big fan when he starts having a lot of influence over the story, because things get real weird, real fast.

Once Stan's little brother Larry stopped being involved Kirby kind of inherited the writing part.

 

[enisthemenace]

did you get a little Peter tingle watching it?

Luckily, I still get the Peter tingle quite frequently, and not at the stage where OTCs are necessary. Maybe a little mango.

 

[AirWalke]

Rewatched Spider-Man: Homecoming over the weekend due to some earlier discussion. I did like it better with another viewing. Far from Home is still kind is a turd in my book.

I liked both movies, but I’ve always enjoyed Mysterio as a villain. The hallucination visuals in Far From Home were excellent. But I can definitely see why people were generally sour on it, there were some scenes that should have clearly been left to die on the cutting room floor.

 

[Hoggins]

Like clockwork, I’m really, really enjoying FatWS on the binge rewatch. Much better the second time through and I really love the Isiah Bradley storyline.

Cool idea would be a What If? episode with Bradley

 

[Triggermv]

Like clockwork, I’m really, really enjoying FatWS on the binge rewatch. Much better the second time through and I really love the Isiah Bradley storyline.

Cool idea would be a What If? episode with Bradley

I know a lot of people are excited about the upcoming What If? animated series, but am I the only one where stuff like that just DOES NOT interest me at all? Don't get me wrong as I'll still watch it and give it a shot, but I rarely have interest in any type of elseworld type stuff. I just don't care.

 

[Hoggins]

I know a lot of people are excited about the upcoming What If? animated series, but am I the only one where stuff like that just DOES NOT interest me at all. Don't get me wrong as I'll still watch it and give it a shot, but I rarely have interest in any type of elseworld type stuff.

Anything multiverse can be hooked directly to my veins. That why I’m so excited and interested.

Plus it’s got Bernard from West World

 

[CycloneErik]

I know a lot of people are excited about the upcoming What If? animated series, but am I the only one where stuff like that just DOES NOT interest me at all. Don't get me wrong as I'll still watch it and give it a shot, but I rarely have interest in any type of elseworld type stuff.

The first round of the What If comic in the 80s had some great stories that are worth reading. If you like sight gags, one-liners, and purposely dumb (at times) humor, #34 of that run is their all-humor issue. Spidey Intellectual Stories in there is insane.

The next round in the 90s seemed like it always ended with the universe's destruction. It turned into a joke for my brother and I, but then it just kept happening.

This is the one I've been most excited for.

 

[3GenClone]

I know a lot of people are excited about the upcoming What If? animated series, but am I the only one where stuff like that just DOES NOT interest me at all? Don't get me wrong as I'll still watch it and give it a shot, but I rarely have interest in any type of elseworld type stuff. I just don't care.

I was slightly interested when What If was first announced and it was going to be the only MCU show to come out in the summer of 2021. The pandemic pushing the Disney+ live-action shows back and all the Marvel movies so there is only a 3-month gap between releases doesn't really have me craving an animated series at this time. Don't get me wrong, I'll still watch it but at this time I'm not really considering it as part of the MCU "Canon." It's kind of the Marvel equivalent of Star Wars Clone Wars - I still haven't made it through any of those animated series and I wasn't lost when Clone Wars characters were introduced in the Mandalorian.

 

[Triggermv]

Marvel Studios’ Disney Plus Shows Don’t Use Showrunners, and That Has Some TV Writers Worried

Marvel isn't using showrunners in Disney Plus series like 'The Falcon and the Winter Soldier,' a practice causing some TV writers concern.

variety.com

Very interesting article outlaying how Feige is changing the very structure of how TV is traditionally made with his upcoming TV series, and its impact and pushback from the industry. Essentially, he is upsetting the traditional TV apple cart of how TV is traditionally made, which is very writer/showrunner led way, with directors coming in and out with little voice impact to the overall narrative. Feige on the other hand is making these shows like long movies, with many times only one director, and that director not only working with the writers, but also leading the writers. Sounds like there is some pretty bitter writers out there not liking this change. In the end, in Feige I trust. The dude has been upsetting the traditional Hollywood apple cart for a decade now and making them all look like fools in the process. Why should I doubt him now?

Shoot, I find the narrative of "too much studio interference", which is brought up all the time as an easy excuse for why a lot of movies are bad interesting. It's to the point where "studio interference" automatically comes across as a negative thing that stifles creativity. You hear it said probably most as to why the DCEU has the problems it does. However, what nobody ever talks about is there likely isn't a studio around that has more creative say and interferes more with every level of a film and TV production than Marvel Studios does, and they've been the most dominating force in all of Hollywood over the past 10 years. They also have some of the lowest level of drama behind the scenes of any studio. It simply just comes down to they are so much better at it than everyone else. So, to me, I don't look at "studio interference" as necessarily a good or bad thing, but rather all depends on how and by whom it is wielded. In many ways, I truly believe the DCEU needs more studio interference in the form of hiring a creative head like Feige to lead their overall direction of their movies/TV. However, I'm just not sure their old-school political structure of too many egos will every allow them to make that necessary decision. In the meantime, they seem to settle on not wanting to copy Marvel (like copying something that is good and works is bad), letting filmmakers take the lead in 20 different directions, then still barking in some random studio-led orders coming from 20 different directions. Then, we all wonder why we get what we get and bark "too much studio interference!!!!".

 

[BryceC]

I'm with you Trigger. I think studios get a bad rap and they have made some pretty bad choices that have ruined some projects with potential in the past.

It's also 100% true that creators need reined in at times and when left to their own devices bad things happen. I'll use a fairly recent example in Game of Thrones. I read the books in the 90s. The first three books are as good as fantasy can be. But instead of keeping George on the rails to the end of the story his publisher allowed him to just continue to muddle along and have the story continue to expand to a point where he will never finish it and IMO the 4th and 5th books are a huge step down from the first three.

Also, from all accounts the TV show creators were tired of the story by the end which lead to a very dissatisfying ending for a lot of fans. Keep in mind that while I followed what was happening I've never watched the show but the studio should have stepped in and demanded more episodes or another season if need be. However, since everybody was all on B&W's jock by that point they weren't going to say no.

The studios shouldn't have too much power, but neither should the creative types.

 

[Triggermv]

I'm with you Trigger. I think studios get a bad rap and they have made some pretty bad choices that have ruined some projects with potential in the past.

It's also 100% true that creators need reined in at times and when left to their own devices bad things happen. I'll use a fairly recent example in Game of Thrones. I read the books in the 90s. The first three books are as good as fantasy can be. But instead of keeping George on the rails to the end of the story his publisher allowed him to just continue to muddle along and have the story continue to expand to a point where he will never finish it and IMO the 4th and 5th books are a huge step down from the first three.

Also, from all accounts the TV show creators were tired of the story by the end which lead to a very dissatisfying ending for a lot of fans. Keep in mind that while I followed what was happening I've never watched the show but the studio should have stepped in and demanded more episodes or another season if need be. However, since everybody was all on B&W's jock by that point they weren't going to say no.

The studios shouldn't have too much power, but neither should the creative types.

Yeah, the moral of the story is that a healthy balance of both studio control and creator control is really the best way to go in the end. I can point out just as many bad instances of a director or writer going off the rails too much to a projects demise as I can the opposite of too much studio interference being to blame. Feige knows that, which is why he is still strongly involved in laying out the framework in which filmmakers and writers need to play within, while still giving them pretty strong creative control within that framework. If this was too stifling to creators, then why don't we hear a bunch of grumbling by creators after the fact? There is a few instances, but they are few and far between. In fact, more often than not, we see them come back to do even more work with Marvel Studios.

 

[Triggermv]

Disney’s New World Order Leads to Confusion and Bruised Egos

Disney dramatically reorganized its entertainment business and that's leading to bruised egos among top creative executives and tensions.

variety.com

Interesting article on how well all the behind-the-scenes executive changes at Disney are going. I find stuff like this fascinating and fun to follow, while I'm sure many others find this stuff boring. Shoot, I've even read Iger's book, which I found to be a really good read.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Disney’s New World Order Leads to Confusion and Bruised Egos

Disney dramatically reorganized its entertainment business and that's leading to bruised egos among top creative executives and tensions.

variety.com

Interesting article on how well all the behind-the-scenes executive changes at Disney are going. I find stuff like this fascinating and fun to follow, while I'm sure many others find this stuff boring. Shoot, I've even read Iger's book, which I found to be a really good read.

Disney's New World Order. That's clever.

 

[Triggermv]

JUNGLE CRUISE Now Coming To Theaters & Disney+ Premier Access Simultaneously This Summer

Ahead of Disney's earnings call later today, Dwayne Johnson has announced that his upcoming fantasy adventure film Jungle Cruise will be coming simultaneously to theaters & Disney+ Premier this summer!

www.comicbookmovie.com

With Jungle Cruise now being announced to release simultaneously in theaters and on Disney+ Premiere Access on July 30th, I think this pretty much puts to bed some of the people out there who have been speculating that Disney would change course on their simultaneous release plan for Black Widow. Jungle Cruise's release date is after Black Widows, so if they are going this same route for Jungle Cruise on a later date, they likely are not changing course on Black Widow's plan. I think the real question moving forward now is how many other future Disney movies will also go the same route. Next up to the docket on the Disney release calendar is Shang-Chi (September 3rd), with an outside chance a 20th Century Fox movie like Free Guy (Aug 13th) could technically go that route too if they wanted. I'm sure they are currently just playing by ear.

 

[3GenClone]

‘Shang-Chi,’ ‘Free Guy’ Will Play in Theaters for 45 Days Before Home Viewing

Marvel Studios' "Shang-Chi" and 20th Century's "Free Guy" will play in theaters for 45 days, Disney CEO Bob Chapek announced Thursday.

variety.com

Shang-Chi and Free Guy will launch exclusively in theaters for 45 days before heading to VOD