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For those who have seen it.. Venom: Thumbs up or Thumbs Down

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I think I mentioned this a bit ago when I finally jumped in this thread. I grew up knowing about comics in an artistic sense (pencil to paper sketching) more than the stories. The only characters I really knew even origin stories about where characters like Superman, Batman (and Robin), Spider-Man and the Hulk. I didn’t know anything about the stories and relationships beyond that. I did know who all of these other characters (ie Captain American, Iron Man, Black Widow, etc, etc, etc) were though.

With that said, I know absolutely nothing about The Eternals. I couldn’t name a single character. Is it possible to explain how they cross into the MCU as we know it today without going into too much context? I know I can Google this stuff, but I guess part of me doesn’t want to know too much. Just a feel for how they can be brought in. If what I’m asking is too much, just ignore. I’d understand.
 
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enisthemenace said:
I think I mentioned this a bit ago when I finally jumped in this thread. I grew up knowing about comics in an artistic sense (pencil to paper sketching) more than the stories. The only characters I really knew even origin stories about where characters like Superman, Batman (and Robin), Spider-Man and the Hulk. I didn’t know anything about the stories and relationships beyond that. I did know who all of these other characters (ie Captain American, Iron Man, Black Widow, etc, etc, etc) were though.

With that said, I know absolutely nothing about The Eternals. I couldn’t name a single character. Is it possible to explain how they cross into the MCU as we know it today without going into too much context? I know I can Google this stuff, but I guess part of me doesn’t want to know too much. Just a feel for how they can be brought in. If what I’m asking is too much, just ignore. I’d understand.
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I know a bit more about comics, especially Marvel, but mostly on the XMen side, and I have heard of the Eternals but don't know much at all about them.
 
enisthemenace said:
I think I mentioned this a bit ago when I finally jumped in this thread. I grew up knowing about comics in an artistic sense (pencil to paper sketching) more than the stories. The only characters I really knew even origin stories about where characters like Superman, Batman (and Robin), Spider-Man and the Hulk. I didn’t know anything about the stories and relationships beyond that. I did know who all of these other characters (ie Captain American, Iron Man, Black Widow, etc, etc, etc) were though.

With that said, I know absolutely nothing about The Eternals. I couldn’t name a single character. Is it possible to explain how they cross into the MCU as we know it today without going into too much context? I know I can Google this stuff, but I guess part of me doesn’t want to know too much. Just a feel for how they can be brought in. If what I’m asking is too much, just ignore. I’d understand.
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Kirby kind of borrowed some Greek and Roman myths, made basically new versions of their pantheons as a race created by the Celestials doing some genetic experiments and manipulation thousands of years ago, and then it kinda gets weird from there.
 
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CycloneErik said:
Kirby kind of borrowed some Greek and Roman myths, made basically new versions of their pantheons as a race created by the Celestials doing some genetic experiments and manipulation thousands of years ago, and then it kinda gets weird from there.
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Super weird. I always get them and the Inhumans mixed up. Was never into celestial Marvel.
 
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BryceC said:
Super weird. I always get them and the Inhumans mixed up. Was never into celestial Marvel.
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I tried a few times to get into each.
The Inhumans almost always turns out to be a "Maximus overthrowing Black Bolt" story with unrelatable characters.

I kept trying the Eternals because I got the feeling I was supposed to be into Kirby stuff, but it rarely did much for me, and their whole deal gets too convoluted, even for comics.
 
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CycloneErik said:
I kept trying the Eternals because I got the feeling I was supposed to be into Kirby stuff, but it rarely did much for me, and their whole deal gets too convoluted, even for comics.
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Yeah there seems to be a Kirby hive out there that you need like pre-apologize to if you don't get into his stuff. I don't hate Kirby stuff but it's just not what I'm into at all.
 
Never saw the first Venom, but this trailer looks a bit too jokey considering the source material. It’ll play for laughs for sure, but takes out some of the fear of Venom and Carnage.
 
AirWalke said:
Never saw the first Venom, but this trailer looks a bit too jokey considering the source material. It’ll play for laughs for sure, but takes out some of the fear of Venom and Carnage.
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The first Venom is a bit of a throwback to the 90s or early 2000 comic book movies with some of its fearlessness to be a bit over-the-top, shameless, goofy, and comic bookey. It tries to be fun and mostly succeeded based on its response, but isn't much more than just that. In its defense, I can't say it tries to be either. Based on the trailer, this movie already seems to be more of what we got in the first, if not ramped up a bit more. I just hope it doesn't ramp it up too much, as the first one was already pushing my own limits, even though I enjoyed it overall. Also in its defense, I surprisingly find it one of the most rewatchable Marvel movies when I just want to have a good time.
 
Triggermv said:
The first Venom is a bit of a throwback to the 90s or early 2000 comic book movies with some of its fearlessness to be a bit over-the-top, shameless, goofy, and comic bookey. It tries to be fun and mostly succeeded based on its response, but isn't much more than just that. In its defense, I can't say it tries to be either. Based on the trailer, this movie already seems to be more of what we got in the first, if not ramped up a bit more. I just hope it doesn't ramp it up too much, as the first one was already pushing my own limits, even though I enjoyed it overall. Also in its defense, I surprisingly find it one of the most rewatchable Marvel movies when I just want to have a good time.
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Agreed. Venom wasn't trying to be anything more than entertaining, and that's what it was. It was schlocky and Tom Hardy chewed scenery all over the place, but that was its charm.
 
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Triggermv said:
I surprisingly find it one of the most rewatchable Marvel movies when I just want to have a good time.
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I haven't had a desire to re-watch Venom, but it definitely had the vibe of a movie that would have been played Sunday afternoons on one of the cable networks, and those were usually guilty pleasure movies.

I'm super intrigued by Venom: Let There Be Carnage, as Andy Serkis is directing it. I can only imagine he has some awesome mo-cap/CGI planned.
 
Kirby penciled virtually everything during the birth of Marvel and needless to say the style is perfect for some and not so hot for others.
 
3GenClone said:
I haven't had a desire to re-watch Venom, but it definitely had the vibe of a movie that would have been played Sunday afternoons on one of the cable networks, and those were usually guilty pleasure movies.

I'm super intrigued by Venom: Let There Be Carnage, as Andy Serkis is directing it. I can only imagine he has some awesome mo-cap/CGI planned.
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Describing it as your prototypical guilty pleasure movie is perfect. The closest comparison out there I'd say to it in the current comic book movie world is actually Aquaman in my mind. Aquaman clearly changed course from Snyder's very dark, deconstructive, grim movies where he was heavy on imagery and symbolism for everything. Aquaman clearly set out to be a fun colorful romp, with plenty of action, comedy and a tinge of horror as well. Venom is a lot of the same, just on a much smaller scale, and with a lot less color. Outside of comic book movies, I'd compare these movies to a typical 90s action comedy like Armageddon or Independence Day. Are those movies super great, deep, well-made films? Probalby not. Are they a ton of fun? Heck yeah. At a minimum, they are simply a fun change of pace to the other stuff we are currently getting out there, but also doesn't mean I want all my comic book movies to be like these.
 
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Triggermv said:
Describing it as your prototypical guilt pleasure movie is perfect. The closest comparison out there I'd say to it is actually Aquaman in my mind. Aquaman clearly changed course from Snyder's very dark, deconstructive, grim movies where he was heavy on imagery and symbolism for everything. Aquaman clearly set out to be a fun colorful romp with plenty of comedy and a tinge of horror as well. Venom is a lot of the same, just on a much smaller scale, and with a lot less color.
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Nope.

Aquaman is just Buck Rogers and the 25th Century plus 40 years and no Queen soundtrack.

It's terrible.
 
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