***Official 2020-2021 Transfer Thread***

[nallen34]

I think Texas only has for sure 6 scholarship filled right now (Febres doesn't count towards the limit). Brown, Ramey and Sims have yet to make final decisions though but Sims doesn't count towards the limit if he were to come back.

I've read here and there these tidbits about Texas. Who knows how true they are.

I read that Ramey is more than likely coming back. Coleman has been selling his gear which would make him unable to come back due to that being an ncaa violation. Greg Brown has been said to be be going to the draft for awhile now since he's projected a first rounder. Sims is truly the only one I haven't seen anything about him staying or going. If he comes back though he won't count toward the scholarship count just like Febres doesn't.

So right now they have a projected 8 filled.

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[CoachHines3]

 

[Halincandenza]

And some people think he should be a walk on? I would guess this is a backup plan type of call in case Wilson stays in the draft.

 

[JCloned]

Doubt he walks on anywhere.....

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Ryan Hawkins has a phone call later today with Kansas coach Bill Self, first reported by
@MatthewBain_
. Hawkins is a stretch-four, and there’s not too many bigs who can shoot it at the clip he does. Makes sense he’s already got that type of market.

 

[baagoe]

 

[allfourcy]

Whoa....guess that answers the question whether a high major could give him a shot or not. I say bring him on TJ! I realize we have an abundance of forwards right now but Is Brockington or any other off-guard left in the portal actually going to get us 5-8 more wins? If he competes and inches ahead of Jaz, Enaruna, or whomever else would play the '4', then the team is even better for it.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

Hate to be that guy, but really wish we could've taken this guy over Kunc. That way we'd still be able to take an older point guard. As of right now, don't think it makes sense to take him based on how the roster is constructed, which is unfortunate.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Hate to be that guy, but really wish we could've taken this guy over Kunc. That way we'd still be able to take an older point guard. As of right now, don't think it makes sense to take him based on how the roster is constructed, which is unfortunate.

He's a proven PAC12 starter-quality guy that was available to us almost immediately. I can't see passing that up, and I'm glad we didn't.

 

[TomTreebow]

He's a proven PAC12 starter-quality guy that was available to us almost immediately. I can't see passing that up, and I'm glad we didn't.

Agreed. He averaged 10 points, 7 rebounds while shooting 48% from the floor and 39% from 3 in the last 7 regular season games in the Pac-12 while having 1 turnover total. These were the only games he played more than 20 minutes in since the third game of the season. I think he's going to be good and really challenge for a starting role. Worst case he's a floor stretcher who rebounds and does not turn it over and has coaches on record vouching for his defense at a D-I level.

I've been looking but didn't someone do an analysis of all the transfers last year that moved up a level and the results were terrible? I'd be happy taking Hawkins but I think this whole Bill Self thing reaching out (might not even offer) has people going a little crazy.

 

[allfourcy]

Hate to be that guy, but really wish we could've taken this guy over Kunc. That way we'd still be able to take an older point guard. As of right now, don't think it makes sense to take him based on how the roster is constructed, which is unfortunate.

Understandably, but thats hindsight. But for some of us, "if' he happens to end up in a KU uniform it will feel alot worse.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Agreed. He averaged 10 points, 7 rebounds while shooting 48% from the floor and 39% from 3 in the last 7 regular season games in the Pac-12 while having 1 turnover total. These were the only games he played more than 20 minutes in since the third game of the season. I think he's going to be good and really challenge for a starting role. Worst case he's a floor stretcher who rebounds and does not turn it over and has coaches on record vouching for his defense at a D-I level.

I've been looking but didn't someone do an analysis of all the transfers last year that moved up a level and the results were terrible? I'd be happy taking Hawkins but I think this whole Bill Self thing reaching out (might not even offer) has people going a little crazy.

Just found this comment on a Washington State message board, and I like him even more now:

"Jaz is the perfect recruit for a new coach, the type of player who gives his all 100% of the time and is a very good kid on & off the court. Every team needs a player like him if they want to be successful - high motor, high BB IQ. Glad TJ reached out to him. The biggest issue with Jaz will be making sure he's not in that practice facility 24/7 so he doesn't wear down."

Kunc to Iowa State

Kunc to Iowa State

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[BallSoHard4Cy]

I'm willing to accept being wrong about Kunc, but I think a lot of people on this message board don't realize how good NWMSU was (and Hawkins was a huge reason for that). I'd wager better than over half of D1 teams and then some.

I think Kunc can be a serviceable role player, but he has nowhere near the game of Hawkins. As it stands currently we have no post player on the roster who can get their own shot other than maybe Hinson who we haven't seen. Hawkins presently fills more of a need than Kunc, even if Kunc ends up being great at his role.

 

[tyler24]

I'm willing to accept being wrong about Kunc, but I think a lot of people on this message board don't realize how good NWMSU was (and Hawkins was a huge reason for that). I'd wager better than over half of D1 teams and then some.

I think Kunc can be a serviceable role player, but he has nowhere near the game of Hawkins. As it stands currently we have no post player on the roster who can get their own shot other than maybe Hinson who we haven't seen. Hawkins presently fills more of a need than Kunc, even if Kunc ends up being great at his role.

I'm sorry but this kid is at the D2 level. It is highly unlikely he would come in and be a contributor. Kunc fills much more of a role than this kid. Kunc has proven he can score, defend, and rebound at this level. You are too emotionally attached to this kid/situation. Go look at the history of D2 kids jumping to this level and you will see why it is unlikely he would contribute. The kid can shoot, but the 3 point line is different and the level of athlete is different. About the only thing that translates at all levels is rebounding.

 

[JCloned]

Hawkins would be a take, but not over a proven talent at D1 level, come on. btw you are "that" guy.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

I'm sorry but this kid is at the D2 level. It is highly unlikely he would come in and be a contributor. Kunc fills much more of a role than this kid. Kunc has proven he can score, defend, and rebound at this level. You are too emotionally attached to this kid/situation. Go look at the history of D2 kids jumping to this level and you will see why it is unlikely he would contribute. The kid can shoot, but the 3 point line is different and the level of athlete is different. About the only thing that translates at all levels is rebounding.

I mean you could say this about almost every transfer. They just simply are not likely to make huge contributions at their new school. I'm simply stating my opinion here. I would rather take a flier on a guy who produced like Hawkins did over a player who's ceiling is a spark off the bench role player. Neither will be a factor defensively.

Hawkins would be a take, but not over a proven talent at D1 level, come on. btw you are "that" guy.

It should go without saying that I'll be rooting for Kunc to be great here. However, just being a D1 player doesn't automatically make you a better player than every player in the division below you. Sometimes evaluators screw up.

If the argument is that Kunc > Hawkins because P5 > D2, then that's an argument I can't get behind.

 

[CyPunch]

I don't think you're making a ridiculous argument by any means @BallSoHard4Cy. I can see taking a risk on Hawkins' elite shooting skill translating from D2 to D1. Doesn't hurt that he was a two time DPOY and played on an ultra successful team.

Kunc's high offensive rating and motor on the boards is also intriguing though. I think he'll be able to succeed as a 7th/8th man type for us the next two years. Fair argument both ways.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

I don't think you're making a ridiculous argument by any means @BallSoHard4Cy. I can see taking a risk on Hawkins' elite shooting skill translating from D2 to D1. Doesn't hurt that he was a two time DPOY and played on an ultra successful team.

Kunc's high offensive rating and motor on the boards is also intriguing though. I think he'll be able to succeed as a 7th/8th man type for us the next two years. Fair argument both ways.

Thank you, but at the end of the day it is pretty meaningless. We took Kunc and I don't see us backing off that commitment (nor should we).

The real question is whether or not the staff thinks a year of Hawkins would be more beneficial than a year of an experienced guard to help alleviate some of the burden of Tyrese Hunter, which I'd argue is more important at this point.

 

[baagoe]

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[qwerty]

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[Cyclonepride]

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