Lmao calm down Randy Marsh
Gabe Kalscheur Commits
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I'm going to say this once and then shut up. If it happens, say in 5, 6 years to be generous, that we have to move on to a new coach, I am going to hate being around here.
Both sides argue like children. We are all Cyclones after all.
Yeah they were misses because they weren’t 4 year guys apparently. This is getting ridiculous. Prohm was a very good recruiter but had some big misses clustered in a couple years.
People trying to claim Prohm was a bad recruiter are idiots.
The high end of his recruiting was elite but on the low end it was absolute garbage with not much in between.
No one doubts he brought in a few great recruits. But when there’s a few great to mostly bad and no middle ground... it’s bad overall.
And no one said his one or two and dones were misses. The rest were misses, because one and dones with no core is a recipe for disaster.
@rochclone the super fan just really hates Prohm. So when the leader of the TJ cult says Prohm is a bad recruiter you just have to take it with a grain of salt.
Good at recruiting individually...bad with the plan and some of the red flags that were apparent with the first two teams were deeply exposed.
We'll see if TJ can figure out how to build a foundation to add to.
Not sure Buggs wants to be a backup pg. That being said, ISU is the one team he might be ok with playing 10-15 minutes.Buggs?
I’d love for TJ to have some similar hits. I’d also love for him to bring in some 4 year players to have a base. The biggest key is development. Prohm couldn’t do it, and didn’t hire a staff that could. Can TJ and his staff develop and be more well rounded at recruiting? We’ll see. I’m not just going to blindly say he/they can’t.
No, I wouldn't have contacted him. He would be a terrible fit for Ames and the style Iowa State plays.
Also, it's one Final 4 in four years, their Final Four Run was in 2018.
So we have a set defined unchangeable style that we play with? Especially with the roster turnover I think the style of play could easily be tweaked to accommodate the personnel.
I 100% agree. I also don’t think anyone has said he can’t. Well, maybe one person has.
Prohm's High School recruiting was good, especially identifying guards early.
The issue was player retention, I believe Solo was the only HS to stay 4 years. Compounding the losses was poor spring transfer recruiting to fill the holes. Last year's 2-22 was the end result.
I don't think the roster didn't have talent rather was a perfect storm of having to rely on a bunch of new players without an offseason to practice together. Add in a Foster injury with a Covid Pause affecting most the team mid season lead to the cratering.
The direction the program was going though only speed up the evitable a year IMO. As tough as last year was I think were all more optimistic about next year than we were a month ago.
The issue was player retention, I believe Solo was the only HS to stay 4 years. Compounding the losses was poor spring transfer recruiting to fill the holes. Last year's 2-22 was the end result.
I don't think the roster didn't have talent rather was a perfect storm of having to rely on a bunch of new players without an offseason to practice together. Add in a Foster injury with a Covid Pause affecting most the team mid season lead to the cratering.
The direction the program was going though only speed up the evitable a year IMO. As tough as last year was I think were all more optimistic about next year than we were a month ago.
The disaster in Morgantown was really the key indicator to me, it was just easy to look past it because a raw, talented team was able to scratch back to win the conference tourney. But I think that game and everything that kind of led up to it was a window into the future.
You don't know what style of play Iowa State is known for and how Hilton Magic got its name? I'll give you a hint, its not playing Licklighter ball where every once in awhile we grind out a 58-53 win.
I'm sorry, Moser is a decent coach but TJ is a much better recruiter and a better fit.
I like Loyola but if you remember they needed a couple miracle shots to even make the Final 4. I'm taking nothing away from him, but his overall record there isn't good. It took him a decade to figure things out and the conference switch helped also.
Wasn’t Eustachy known for 58-53 types of games?
Honest question, he was right at the beginning of my fandom.
Yes, this I agree with, though I would still stay his rosters weren’t so unconventional that a good coach couldn’t make it work.
