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Tlyon

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I hope Tre comes back. I’m not 100% sure but I’ve always been a fan of his. He reminds me a bit of Barry Brown from kstate. Undersized and known for defense, though Brown was better at offense.
 
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isucy86

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Guess I need to go back to the big 12 "who they losing, who's returning" thread. Who is getting worse? Who is an 0-19 team passing? TCU? KSU? Maybe?

This is not a 1-year rebuild.

The one NCAA team that seemed to overachieve was OU. Well coached team, but not dominate players. Also will be interested what Baylor looks like next season. Texas also loses some key pieces. If Kai Jones goes pro- they definitely have some rebuilding to do.
 
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I do think ISU could have an NCAA Tournament team next season if all the pieces come together. As much as players, that will come down to if TJ is able to create a new ISU basketball culture based on toughness and effort. If we can defend, rebound and get to the line- we could make huge strides.

The perfect scenario is heavily contingent on ISU having a quality PG. Hunter looks the parts based on his HS highlights, but the Big 12 is a different level. I like the following lineup:

Hunter
Bolton
Hinson
Foster or Tfr/Recruit
Conditt or Foster

Then off the bench Walker at PG, Harris/Jackson at WG, Johnson at SF, Dubar at PF

The tough thing is Harris & Jackson are very similar players. Shorter guards, who don't seem to have the best handle, mainly spot up jump shooters with questionable shot selection at times. IMO there is just room for 1 on our roster.

I struggle to see where Dubar and Blackwell fit. I realize they were only freshman and maybe Covid stunted their development- but for 6'6" players, I just didn't see shooters. I liked Dubar's rebounding.

In my mind, I see Dubar as ISU's Mart Vital.
 

ForeverIowan

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JFC dudes. Take a breath.

You don't think Iowa State could compete for 6th or 7th in conference if TJ could land a Shayok esque type legit transfer or hell even convince Arthur Kaluma (long shot I know) to follow him to Iowa State?
 

ForeverIowan

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No, no I don’t think that.

Why? Hunter and Foster are legit 4 star talents. Bolton is one of the better guards in the league. Hinson is a proven double digit scorer at the P5 level. Javan Johnson is an athletic forward. Conditt should have his best year ahead of him. Add a big time transfer. That rotation of 7-8 guys can compete for the 7th spot in the Big 12 and fight for the bubble next year.
 

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Why? Hunter and Foster are legit 4 star talents. Bolton is one of the better guards in the league. Hinson is a proven double digit scorer at the P5 level. Javan Johnson is an athletic forward. Conditt should have his best year ahead of him. Add a big time transfer. That rotation of 7-8 guys can compete for the 7th spot in the Big 12 and fight for the bubble next year.
Xavier Foster and George Conditt both need to take huge steps forward for this to happen. With that being said, I think they are capable.
 

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Why? Hunter and Foster are legit 4 star talents. Bolton is one of the better guards in the league. Hinson is a proven double digit scorer at the P5 level. Javan Johnson is an athletic forward. Conditt should have his best year ahead of him. Add a big time transfer. That rotation of 7-8 guys can compete for the 7th spot in the Big 12 and fight for the bubble next year.
People forget that you only need to go 9-9 and maybe even 8-10 some years in the Big 12 to get a tourney bid.

If we went 7-11 next year that would at least keep us in the running for a bid most of the year. I think that would be a good step for progress.

When you break it down though that means 6-3 in Hilton and going 3-6 on the road. After thr last 4 years though that seems like a monumental task right now.
 
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cyclone1209

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I think getting Hinson back will be huge for our forward rotation as will getting Foster back.
Is Hinson coming back for sure?

I agree that a three amigo building block of Tyrese Hunter, X Foster, and Rasir Bolton would be pretty potent. Conditt should help too if he can gain strength and rebound better, he needs to bring some more toughness next year, he has talent.

Regarding Tyler Harris I simply like him b/c I thought his effort at times was the best on the team, really works hard for 50/50 balls and energy is always there with him. Seems like he has a great attitude.
 
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isucy86

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Unless new coaches make a difference, I just don't see how Conditt is a big12 player. No offense to him, but wouldn't it be in his best interest to transfer to a mid-major, somewhere that he could contribute more. I would think and hope he would be happier.

Conditt didn't give much offense this past season, but I thought the last month he provided defense, rebounding and rim protection. The last 2 years I have been waiting for him to take a bigger role and be a solid Big12 post. At this point I would be happy if he can contribute 10-15mpg. I do think a coaching staff change could transform his game.
 
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You guys are so right on bowen born. Clearly the players we used his potential scholarship on who couldn't see the floor on a team that went 0-18 in the big 12 were much better. Smh
 
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