Coaching Search: Place your bets

[chuckd4735]

five wins in two years.

There's not many coachs in the country who was going to win more games than that with the team that McCarney left. Chizik is a huge part of the reason CPR had success. Had Chizik stayed and kept on his recruiting pace, you could have seen some great teams.

 

[awd4cy]

five wins in two years.

Dan McCarney wouldn’t have won anymore in those 2 years.

 

[chuckd4735]

Whoa, what?

If he's a blunder because he left for greener pastures after two years then sure. However, people seem to forget how great of a hire that was at the time. let's not forget the guy won a national championship.

 

[Tornado man]

There's not many coachs in the country who was going to win more games than that with the team that McCarney left. Chizik is a huge part of the reason CPR had success. Had Chizik stayed and kept on his recruiting pace, you could have seen some great teams.

No, check CPR's roster - over half of the starters, and most of the stars - on Rhoads' first team were Mac recruits.

 

[chuckd4735]

No, check CPR's roster - over half of the starters, and most of the stars - on Rhoads' first team were Mac recruits.

Rhoads had more success than just his first year...

 

[Rabbuk]

Rhoads had more success than just his first year...

Big if true

 

[Tornado man]

Rhoads had more success than just his first year...

I agree. And also agree that Chizik was a hot name - then why couldn't such a hot name attract a better coaching staff. Don't you agree?

 

[DrizzyCyclone]

I’ll get the thread back on track:

Who I want: Craig Smith or Jerome Tang
Who we’ll get: Probably TJ
Who I don’t want: TJ. I need to see him do more before being a P6 head coach. I’ll still support the program if he gets hired though - I want the program to succeed whether I initially like the hire or not.

 

[chuckd4735]

I agree. And also agree that Chizik was a hot name - then why couldn't such a hot name attract a better coaching staff. Don't you agree?

I don't disagree. I think he made some weird choices on assistants. However, the fact that our budget was nearly half of what it is right now may have also played into that.

 

[CyLyte2]

Chizik was a bad coach. To argue otherwise is silly.

 

[Cyclone Rebel]

Ignoring the results of that game, just from the little bit I watched it looks like Craig Smith’s offense flows much better than TJ’s. TJ’s offense looks very similar to Prohm’s...

The announcers said there were only 2-3 returning players for UNLV, which might affect that, whereas I think USU had a few that have been there for a while. They also said UNLV had a 33 day layoff due to covid, which probably didn't help. But yeah, Smith seems to be a better coach at this point, I think I saw that USU beat UNLV by about a dozen a couple of days later.

 

[DrizzyCyclone]

The announcers said there were only 2-3 returning players for UNLV, which might affect that, whereas I think USU had a few that have been there for a while. They also said UNLV had a 33 day layoff due to covid, which probably didn't help. But yeah, Smith seems to be a better coach at this point, I think I saw that USU beat UNLV by about a dozen a couple of days later.

Player retention is a huge indicator if you’re going to be successful or not. Can’t have that happen or else the program suffers. Prohm is an example and if you’re numbers regarding UNLV are accurate, that’s a red flag for TJ.

 

[cyclonehomer]

Proven successful tactic at the mid-major level. Not so much in the Big 12. There’s no defense that is good enough to play in the 60’s in this league.

When you get to this level, every team has guys who can hit tough shots. Not saying defense doesn't matter but great offense beats great defense in today's game.

 

[tplumm]

After seeing two people stepped up for a $10M pedestrian bridge to JTS, I’ve reset my thinking on buyout barriers. If JP had a candidate that generated excitement, I may be wrong, but I suspect there are some donors out there willing to go to bat for ISU’s basketball program In a similar matter given our COVID budget shortfall In ISU atheletics.

 

[Cyclones125]

Fred or we cancel the basketball program

 

[Cyclone Rebel]

Player retention is a huge indicator if you’re going to be successful or not. Can’t have that happen or else the program suffers. Prohm is an example and if you’re numbers regarding UNLV are accurate, that’s a red flag for TJ.

2nd year in, and he cleaned house and brought in 7 freshmen. Probably shouldn't have done that, lol, but i guess no one expected covid to hit, and not be able to bring them along during the offseason.

 

[Dandy]

The people who use record as a deciding factor for NOT wanting Hoiberg need to take a step back and realize record doesn't matter. What was Chizik at ISU before he moved up to Auburn? 5-19 and won a Natty a couple years later.

 

[Statefan10]

Fred or we cancel the basketball program

Hey Fred

 

[Minnyclonenut]

2nd year in, and he cleaned house and brought in 7 freshmen. Probably shouldn't have done that, lol, but i guess no one expected covid to hit, and not be able to bring them along during the offseason.

David Jenkins Jr, Caleb grill, Moses wood - all players with experience and guys he’s been on for a long time. Jenkins and Bryce Hamilton their two main guys had multiple years together at UNLV, they still play 1 on 1 ball. The roster was poorly constructed and its equaled the 2nd worst season ever at UNLV.

 

[jsb]

Hey Fred

We also have TJ in this thread. Anyone want to invite Altman and moser in?