In the beginning Fred signed Transfers. The recruiting process for Transfers takes weeks.....not years. Fred is on record when he left for the Bulls that he “f-ing hated recruiting“. Matt Abdelmassih is the lead recruiter for Hoiberg. Haven‘t seen where Fred now loves recruiting. Maybe you could provide a Link.
Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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In the beginning Fred signed Transfers. The recruiting process for Transfers takes weeks.....not years. Fred is on record when he left for the Bulls that he “f-ing hated recruiting“. Matt Abdelmassih is the lead recruiter for Hoiberg. Haven‘t seen where Fred now loves recruiting. Maybe you could provide a Link.
If we were even close average we would have won 8 or 9 of those games. As it is they lost ALL of them, by probably double digit average scores.
I was just speaking in regard to the weekend stuff. Sunday vs. Monday didn't matter in regard to Campbell.
RV wasn't even *that* good. BDJ at his best was better.
Naz and Matt were just better generally.
Would have been nice to have, sure, but missing on him hardly destroyed the program.
Yeah I definitely didn't say that Fred loves recruiting now. I said it's not as bad as it was before.
Although Campbell still had a very important game left for Toledo, we couldn’t pursue Matt in earnest without having a vacancy. It’s SOP that the AD needs to have an opening to put the fullcourt press on. It’s also more conventional for a football coach to leave before a bowl game or conference title when moving up, then it is for a basketball coach to skip March Madness.
An early announcement may have small benefit to Jamie reaching out to candidates, but college basketball coaches aren’t leaving before their schedule is done. Jamie, Prohm, and the players all benefit more from there being no actual agreement to announce as it’s not reached until after the season. Let Prohm have a chance of a landing spot, which impacts buyout considerations, while also not putting the players in a compromising position
Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Johnny leave Michigan for a higher payday at ISU?
So Fred just hates recruiting now. Whereas before Fred said he “f-ing hated recruiting”. Yeah that’s real encouraging.
Again I don't want Fred back. But I'm not going to hold Neb against him. That was a rebuild job about a significant as the one here.
Whoever the next coach is, I hope he is given some time to get things going because I bet the first 2 years are going to be rouuuuuggh
Whoever the next coach is, I hope he is given some time to get things going because I bet the first 2 years are going to be rouuuuuggh
I agree. Pureness was not the right word choice, especially considering Abdelmassih was his lead recruiting assistant, but I do think he thought he could get it done on reputation after he built Iowa St up.
Because Michigan let him. Orr went back to them with ISU's offer, and Michigan wouldn't budge on a raise for him, so Orr came here.
Keep in mind that Orr's Michigan teams did not make the NCAA's in his last three years there, with losing Big Ten seasons the final two. It was obvious they weren't that upset when he left Ann Arbor for Ames.
Hey guys, Word of this board reached out husker hoops board in regards to Fred. Being a big CBB fan, I thought I'd give my 2 cents from a Nebraska perspective. I think everyone in and around the program realizes how lucky we are to have Fred. We're a 2, he's a 10 - we're basically the fat dad in a sitcom who way out kicked their coverage. Sure there are some grumblings, but absolutely everyone wants to give him the time needed to build this thing. Obviously if he wants to return home and you guys have the buyout money - that's what will happen - but I can't see us helping with the buyout, because we aren't getting another coach with Fred's background.
As you well know we've kinda sucked for 2 years. Fred inherited a terrible team and has entirely turned the roster over twice. All the analytics show we're a team full of good shots and bad shooters. We're getting the looks - they just rarely fall. The hope is we get the guys that can make the shots that Fred has been drawing up. With our program's first 5 star in the fold next season, and an actual nucleus returning for the first time in years, we actually might see some results.
Lastly Craig Smith. Guy is a stud. Great person too. Tim Miles never went to an NCAA without him on the bench. Miles peaked in 2014 with the NCAA appearance then Smith bounced and we never reached that success ever again. If Fred did leave, he would be first on my list - but I don't think he would consider us as he is destined for bigger things.
As you well know we've kinda sucked for 2 years. Fred inherited a terrible team and has entirely turned the roster over twice. All the analytics show we're a team full of good shots and bad shooters. We're getting the looks - they just rarely fall. The hope is we get the guys that can make the shots that Fred has been drawing up. With our program's first 5 star in the fold next season, and an actual nucleus returning for the first time in years, we actually might see some results.
Lastly Craig Smith. Guy is a stud. Great person too. Tim Miles never went to an NCAA without him on the bench. Miles peaked in 2014 with the NCAA appearance then Smith bounced and we never reached that success ever again. If Fred did leave, he would be first on my list - but I don't think he would consider us as he is destined for bigger things.
For a guy that hates recruiting so much he sure has brought in some high level players lol.
Missing on RV's talent wasn't the problem, it was missing on the idea of being able to bring in a guy like him. Top 25 nationally, and from Minnesota. At the time it would have been huge, and imo the momentum of the program may have changed.
That’s false. When he signed a class of transfers was his first few months on the job- any player he signed would be a short recruitment.
A year after getting hired he got Georges to commit in may 2011, so his first year he was busy establishing relationships with high school guys. In 2012, after two years on the job he got Thomas and Monte to commit.
The recruiting angle has been completely overblown. Most coaches hate recruiting or certain parts of it. The “hate” recruiting was convenient hyperbole to avoid saying “I’d rather not be coaching Iowa St with Jamie when I could be a NBA coach”.
You know what Fred really hated about recruiting? Telling kids he could land that he would be their coach when he knew he was going to jump. Jamie rightfully should find someone else if that is still an issue.
The momentum might have changed? The momentum carried the program another 2 years after he was gone. That train was chugging along just fine.
There seems to be two opinions on Fred and Jamie in these threads. Some people say the relationship is great and then other people like you claim Jamie is part of the reason Fred left.
Which is it?
Every coach hates recruiting. It's dirty, you have to deal with handlers, you're at the mercy of a 17 year old and the cycle never stops. Fred just made the mistake of saying it aloud.
He would bring some instant credibility to our program that a mid-major guy can't.
He would bring some instant credibility to our program that a mid-major guy can't.
