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Pollard's Latest on Athlete Compensation

Clonefan32 said:
That's fine, at least give them the opportunity to discovery their value on the open market. What's lost by that?
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Theyre welcome to. Just not while playing for a university at the same time.

Pollard knows, rightly, that this NIL garbage and the demands to pay players will take a bad parity situation and put it on rockets. It will destroy schools like Iowa State.
 
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Might as well put coaching/instruction as part of that investment as well. That would really increase that number.
 
alarson said:
Theyre welcome to. Just not while playing for a university at the same time.

Pollard knows, rightly, that this NIL garbage and the demands to pay players will take a bad parity situation and put it on rockets. It will destroy schools like Iowa State.
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That may be true but I suspect he's opposed to it on a personal level as well as a professional/strategic one.
 
Clonefan32 said:
There may be a slight argument to that, although I still don't buy it. I also think it's ironic this little graphic is completely devoid of any income related figures. Why do these kids have to travel halfway across the country to play? Oh yah, because conference alignment valued TV viewership over everything else. Don't create conferences that make zero geographical sense then try to claim the cost of flying these kids all over is "value" added.
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Yeah....that's a great point......and in JP's post he said "wish i could go back in time" is kinda crappy....like a track athlete at a regional Wisconsin school isn't getting this "value" now (as they take vans across the midwest all spring).

The graphic just screams "figure out how to make this figure HUGE" vs reality....heck, most freshman probably don't travel, so knock off $27k, lol.
 
I think it's funny to include Breece Hall in the graphic, considering he's not going to be getting his $500,000 worth of scholarship.
 
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Clonefan32 said:
I am very pro Jamie Pollard and appreciate everything he's done to enhance Iowa State Athletics. But he continues to completely misfire on the athlete compensation debate. I know in the past he's been very vocally against athlete compensation. Here's his latest on Twitter claiming an Iowa State scholarship is somehow worth $500,000:

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You have to be kidding me with this graphic. Counting "sports medicine" and "travel to and from games" as includable in the value of a scholarship? So a player blows out his knee playing football and we are treating the cost of their surgery and rehab as "value"? A Tuesday night plane trip to and from Morgantown is "value"?

If he's trying to say each athlete costs the school $500,000 over the course of their career then maybe he's on to something, but trying to equate that to the "value of a scholarship" is silly.
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They do however, get free tuition, room and board, clothes, shoes, fitness training, etc, and a stipend. And aren't they going to able to start making money off of their name soon? What is that all worth a year? Probably not $500,000. But it's probably a lot more than I ever made working through college at three different part time jobs. I don't feel sorry for athletes. Give up the free ride and go get a job if you want to make money.
 
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The graphic says the $500k is an investment. I think he is more boasting how much they invest in the student athletes at Iowa State. I will admit that he doesn't come across as someone who is pro-NIL, but I don't think this tweet and graphic are meant to be anti players earning more money.
 
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Basically what he did is take the total expense and divide by total student athletes

That's not really how this works.
 
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Do they have age rules in arena leagues or in the new 7 on 7 league? Is the XFL still around? If not, they could just drop out of school and go "pro", or go straight out of high school. It's an option in basketball and baseball.
 
I fear for the day when ISU has to compete against teams with wealthier boosters and in big metros where they can get access to more funding for players' salaries and what not. This is all kind of a bummer for me.

The smarter cyclone fans I know are not too thrilled with this. Would lead to the epitome of an uneven playing field (and for those keeping score it already is an uneven playing field, this will make it worse).
 
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cyclone1209 said:
I fear for the day when ISU has to compete against teams with wealthier boosters and in big metros where they can get access to more funding for players' salaries and what not. This is all kind of a bummer for me.

The smarter cyclone fans I know are not too thrilled with this. Would lead to the epitome of an uneven playing field (and for those keeping score it already is an uneven playing field, this will make it worse).
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Yeah, it's coming. If anyone doesn't think that this whole thing is opening a Pandora's Box, just check in on SEC recruiting. We follow it here, but for those fans, it's like a second FB season. Maybe even more important than the actual games. To think that random boosters won't be giving out $20k handshakes to recruits is crazy. Not that they already don't, but once it's legal, things are going to get out of hand quickly.
 
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cyclone1209 said:
I fear for the day when ISU has to compete against teams with wealthier boosters and in big metros where they can get access to more funding for players' salaries and what not. This is all kind of a bummer for me.

The smarter cyclone fans I know are not too thrilled with this. Would lead to the epitome of an uneven playing field (and for those keeping score it already is an uneven playing field, this will make it worse).
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Right.

NIL will be a major boon for monied programs in highly populated areas or metros. Schools like UT, UDub, tOSU, Miami, USC/UCLA, Cal/Stanford, UGA/GT, etc. will be able to mobilize their rich alumni to help monetize athletes likenesses.
 
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Yeah, it's coming. If anyone doesn't think that this whole thing is opening a Pandora's Box, just check in on SEC recruiting. We follow it here, but for those fans, it's like a second FB season. Maybe even more important than the actual games. To think that random boosters won't be giving out $20k handshakes to recruits is crazy. Not that they already don't, but once it's legal, things are going to get out of hand quickly.
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Put it this way, the owner of the Cadillac dealership in Los Angeles, Seattle, or Atlanta will be able to pay more for that 5*'s image than the one in Des Moines.
 
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They do however, get free tuition, room and board, clothes, shoes, fitness training, etc, and a stipend. And aren't they going to able to start making money off of their name soon? What is that all worth a year? Probably not $500,000. But it's probably a lot more than I ever made working through college at three different part time jobs. I don't feel sorry for athletes. Give up the free ride and go get a job if you want to make money.
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No one is saying it's valueless. But it's not worth $500,000 using the figures he's cited. He's equate cost to value, which is nowhere near apples to apples.
 
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They also get exposure which is basically priceless, so round it up to infinity dollars in value.
 
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