What says any coach is going to work?
Take away his name and do a blind resume comparison to other candidates. Proven winner in the Big 12, proven at rebuilding program. We’d jump at the chance to hire any coach with that resume.
Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?
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What says any coach is going to work?
Take away his name and do a blind resume comparison to other candidates. Proven winner in the Big 12, proven at rebuilding program. We’d jump at the chance to hire any coach with that resume.
Agree! Prohm lived with Hoiberg's ghost a lot longer because of losing at Hilton so often. Because of the last two years where we lost a lot. It's easy to remise about the good ol days when the current days are so awful.
Those first two years had some very awkward moments as well.
Winning erases the ghost.
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Yep, lots of variables for coaches and success....one or two recruits could change the trajectory, etc.
Very good point...and to give Prohm credit, he really handled those dynamics of replacing Hoiberg gracefully...and also him starting the bball reunion is a cool thing and honestly may be one good thing he left the program with if a next coach continues..
Really, Prohm did fine in almost every area except two fundamentally important ones - player development and coaching (both Xs and Os and chemistry and effort). Recruiting was hit or miss, but that’s been the case with all our coaches.
The warning signs during his first two years is what bothers me personally. Prohm never got better in this job, if anything he got worse.
I agree. For some reason people think that Craig Smith and Porter Moser have a better chance at landing those recruits than Fred or TJ, which is insane.
Im not sold that he wants to be here, or that it is even feasible, but Hoibergs accolades are muuuch higher than most of our options. 1st team all big 8, followed by a 10 year NBA career including leading the NBA in 3 pt percentage, nba front office experience, head coach of 2 power 6 programs (with great success at 1), and NBA coach (yeah he didn't succeeded but most people thought his whole situation was screwed up). His resume of basketball is impressive.
Compare that to the resume of our current coach. Played D3 for half a season. Assist coach at a couple mid/low majors, head coach at mid major and P6. had success at both, but has since torpedoed the program.
I mean if hoiberg hadnt had limited succes as an nba coach it wouldn't even be an option, or even if he had a front office in Chicago that was decent he still might be there.
I honestly can't believe the amount of very successful coaches that are lining up to coach at a school that hasn't had as much success as they've had at their current spot.
No......getting recruits to Ames has never been the problem. Not even for a losing coach like GMAC. Whose if I'm not mistaken lead recruiter was TJ. It's what you do with them after that. At least that is what I have been told the last 4 years. So no, Smith or Moser won't do any better at recruiting than TJ......but I'll put money they would do better at the coaching up part. And that's what counts, right? Not nice guys, fun talks with their dad on CF or losses full of integrity, right? A Mercedes never reaches it's full potential on the road if the driver is a kid with a school permit.
Realistically, this is really being done with rose colored glasses.
If you did a blind resume comparison, you’d see had a great run at his first job, and everything after that hasn’t been just been unsuccessful, it’s been downright terrible
Fred apparently truly wants to coach, that’s become obvious. He isn’t getting any nba jobs, maybe ever. So college is the avenue to fill that need. He’s at a place that’s not had much success ever. A few good teams over the years, but consistently a poor program. He’s two years into a trying to establish a program, and they’ve won what 12 games so far?
if his name wasn’t Fred Hoiberg, people here would not be all up in arms to hire him.
That’s a fact. but because he is Fred Hoiberg, and his name is so associated with Iowa State, that’s the selling point
Wish we could have gotten Chris Beard before Taco Tech.
I mean, it’s perfectly plausible, but my big-name-donor sources have good authority on the matter and have told me otherwise.
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You wanted to hire an assistant coach at Tarleton State?
I think I read dahlia said that on here too. I was like his only season at Little Rock was prohm’s first year here.
so an unknown assistant at a d2 school in Stephenville, Tx replacing Fred would have probably gone over just fine with the fans, right?
on a brighter note, if anyone wondered where Billy Gillespie is coaching at today, there’s your answer.
**** the fans. Beard was a rising star. Idgaf about the splashy hire, I want results. His Little Rock team is why I liked him so well.
an assistant coach who was at a d2 school, because pat knight lost his job was a rising star?
you must be way into to obscure coaching staffs in Texas.
i don’t think you are getting the point. Beard was a DII coach when we hired prohm. He got the Little Rock job at the same time as we hired prohm. I guess we could have fired prohm after one year and hired a coach he beat.
also we can’t just assume he would have taken our job.
makes you wonder if bryce drew accepted the job instead of listening to his brother if we would be in this mess since it sounds like he was the first choice before prohm.
