Dis the Ducks

[Kimber45]

Then I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Goodnight everybody. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitress.

 

[NWICY]

May have found their equivalent to the Hawkeyes on my Belly guy

Now that's a brave fashion statement.

 

[bisonduck]

Here is some commonality between the Ducks and Hawkeyes.

There's nothing like moral victories.

 

[t-noah]

SIAP... Does Young have to sit out the first half?

This isn’t a shot at you because like 15 people have asked it already, but I don’t understand how people don’t understand the straight forward rules of when someone has to sit out for a targeting election.

Well I wasn't sure of the targeting rule and when a player had to sit out the 1st half of next game. So I looked it up. On the 3rd or 4th article (the 1st 3 didn't say or I was blind), one from 2017 said this: " If the targeting penalty occurs in the game's second half, that player will also sit out the first half of the next game."

Is that pretty much the gist of it still? If so it seems like the minimum a player would have to sit out would be one half, if play happened on last play of first half. Then to a maximum of two halves, less one play, if play happened on first play of game.

Young got the near max, almost two full halves, as it happened on 2nd play of game! Sucked. Another factor that needs to be looked at when they discuss change to the rule. Unfair he had to be ejected at all really when accidental and non-malicious. Need to re-work this one.

 

[t-noah]

Hi y’all, Duck fan here. Thanks for having me. Congrats on a great season and the NY6 berth! If any of you get bored and wish to visit any Duck forums, as others have mentioned: Scoopduck (paid), 247 (paid) are active but paywall, DucksAttack is not as highly trafficked as it used to be but you’ll find some knowledgeable Duck fans there and as long as you’re not an NDSU honk you’re welcome there. Lots of Duck fans on Reddit and twitter as well.

I follow college football closely, so I’m a bit familiar with ISU. What do you prefer to be called, other than the obvious Iowa State or Cyclones? Besides Oregon or Ducks we go by UO, U of O - Washington’s Daddy is also acceptable. I should note UO, not to be confused with those dyslexic Sooners who are still crying about the last time they visited Oregon, and whom I was hoping to see ISU flush a second time this season, and a valiant effort was made.

A bit about Oregon, not necessarily relevant to this game but since we’re playing for the first time: founded in 1876, the state’s flagship university. Located in Eugene (pop. 171k, 375k metro), about two hours south of Portland in the Willamette Valley. One of the smallest public schools in a P-5 conference, enrollment ~21k.

Football: decent from in the two platoon era, followed by 30 years of misery and darkness from the mid 1960s to 1994, after which football was re-born - largely thanks to a 97 yard interception return for a TD which we call The Pick, propelling Oregon over arch rival Washington and to the Rose Bowl. Since then: 5 Rose Bowls, 2 national title appearances and losses, 2 and now 3 Fiesta Bowls, and a Cotton Bowl. Since 2000 Oregon has been top-10 in wins, with 11 double digit win seasons. The last decade has been especially fruitful, with five top-5 poll finishes, four Pac-12 titles, and five seasons of 12+ wins.

We like to think we have the top program on the West Coast. USC still has their brand name, but Oregon’s national fan base, on field results, and Nike flash have helped close the gap. Oregon has a winning record against any conference opponent dating back nearly 40 years. For TV ratings purposes Oregon is the Pac-12’s biggest draw, and played in the two most watched games of the 2010s.

Since 2000 Oregon is 6-3 against the Big-12-
Wins: 2000 Holiday Bowl Texas, 2001 Fiesta Bowl Colorado, 2006 Oklahoma, 2008 Holiday Bowl Oklahoma State, 2012 Fiesta Bowl Kansas State, 2013 Alamo Bowl Texas.
Losses: 2004 Oklahoma, 2005 Holiday Bowl Oklahoma, 2015 Alamo Bowl TCU which had a blown 31-0 lead we shall not speak of.

Haha! Enjoyed your post, for the most part, getting a little cocky of late (but hey if you can walk the talk) Liked your history lesson and how it's OK you don't mind being called UO, U of O, or Washington's Daddy, Ha! Nice!

Your more humble past, football wise, mid-'60's to 1994, maybe seems a little like ours, only ours lasted longer (and likely was worse in terms of wins/losses) and we haven't attained your highs yet.

Here's to a great game where everybody stays healthy and ISU wins of course. Welcome to CF.

 

[t-noah]

Rabbit or Duck Season...

Every time I see this classic I think to myself, they've got a great 1 min. cartoon here. Then the producer probably said, we need to stretch this one to 3 1/2 minutes!!

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Well I wasn't sure of the targeting rule and when a player had to sit out the 1st half of next game. So I looked it up. On the 3rd or 4th article (the 1st 3 didn't say or I was blind), one from 2017 said this: " If the targeting penalty occurs in the game's second half, that player will also sit out the first half of the next game."

Is that pretty much the gist of it still? If so it seems like the minimum a player would have to sit out would be one half, if play happened on last play of first half. Then to a maximum of two halves, less one play, if play happened on first play of game.

Young got the near max, almost two full halves, as it happened on 2nd play of game! Sucked. Another factor that needs to be looked at when they discuss change to the rule. Unfair he had to be ejected at all really when accidental and non-malicious. Need to re-work this one.

Don’t over think it. Ejection is the first half = out for that game back for next. Ejection is in the second half = out for remainder of game and first half of the next.

 

[JM4CY]

How dare you gender me! Sweet Summer child.

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Just funnin'

Might I suggest:

https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/hot-and-a-little-too-crazy.260903/

 

[CyCloned]

Honestly, the athletic profile of Oregon's defense is elite. I don't worry about a teams length or speed. It's really about being fundamentally sound and playing assignment football since they're so young.

I hope this doesn't come off as bad as it sounds. Those three TEs aren't beating anybody because of their athleticism, especially Soehner. Kolar is really good at finding the soft spot of the zone. I am sure Campbell will come up with ways to get a mismatch here and there. There are a couple of defenders that are average athletically, primarily at boundary safety.

Soehner is the guy that is the least athletic, but I sure wouldn't want to try and tackle that guy. Allen is the best blocker, can catch, but usually doesn't do a lot with it afterwards. Kohler is a different animal. He doesn't have amazing speed, but he is pretty fast for a TE and will routinely get behind a safety that is not paying attention. He was wide open on the first interception in the title game, but Purdy under threw him by 4 yards. Trying to cover him with a LBer is just a mistake. He has had several plays this year where he has caught a pass and run another 20 yards, with DBs eventually dragging him down. He had a really nice catch and run for a TD in the title game.

 

[moores2]

It's a gap sound defense. It seems like some trap schemes would work well.

I disagree, Oklahoma often times pulls both guard and tackle to kick out ends and linebackers. Our guys are disciplined enough to see this coming and rather than get shoved out, they go low creating a pile.

 

[JM4CY]

Here is some commonality between the Ducks and Hawkeyes.

There's nothing like moral victories.

You sure you wanna associate with the Hawkeyes? You were just earning some cred around here

 

[coolerifyoudid]

#30 Jaylon Redd, a 5’8” WR used on runs as well is the closest to those guys from the Chip Kelly era. Both of the main running backs, #7 CJ Verdell and #26 Travis Dye have enough speed for breakaways. #2 Mykael Wright is probably the fastest guy on the team, he’s one of the two CBs and had two 100 yard KO returns last season. #89 TE DJ Johnson and #1 ILB Noah Sewell are about as fast as 260 pounders can be.

Coach Campbell, please direct your kick-offs into the concession stands.

Sincerely
Cooler

Travis Dye is someone you will have to look out for. He's an RB that's caught a few go routes up the middle out of the backfield.

I'm much more worried about RBs going up the middle than to the outside. There are gaps to be had if the scheme is done well.

Oklahoma actually ran an interesting play that worked well two separate times. They ran a play-action to the RB, had him stall at the line, and then released him up the middle for a dump-off after our MLB became engaged. It takes time to develop, but I was pretty impressed with that little twist.

 

[9104Griffith]

I'm much more worried about RBs going up the middle than to the outside. There are gaps to be had if the scheme is done well.

Oklahoma actually ran an interesting play that worked well two separate times. They ran a play-action to the RB, had him stall at the line, and then released him up the middle for a dump-off after our MLB became engaged. It takes time to develop, but I was pretty impressed with that little twist.

I agree, this play executed with a more shifty or speedy RB could be trouble.

 

[madguy30]

I agree, this play executed with a more shifty or speedy RB could be trouble.

Oregon's speed I think will be an issue.

I'm not sure if ISU saw anything like this yet.

 

[JM4CY]

Oregon's speed I think will be an issue.

I'm not sure if ISU saw anything like this yet.

I think you could be right but I think even they would tell you that they don’t have the burners of tradition Duck teams.

 

[madguy30]

I think you could be right but I think even they would tell you that they don’t have the burners of tradition Duck teams.

Yeah it's not like 10 years ago for sure but they just seem to have it in many different areas.

 

[Go2Guy]

Now that we've entered Phase II (analytics) of the pregame banter cycle I decided to watch what ISU clips are available on YT, drove by a Holiday Inn, and came away with these impressions:

1. Purdy. The game will go as Purdy goes and I don't mean just on offense. When Purdy is on he's very good. Spins a great ball, makes good decisions, and frequently extends a play with his arm or legs. If the ISU offense can grind out long drives and score in the red zone Oregon could be in for a long day. Yeah, I know, file this under "no shite sherlock". What I don't see though is an offense that is good enough across the board to win with a QB who is just managing the game by relying on the talent around him. I really like your backs, #11 (Allen) is a stud and runs like a wide out, but Purdy having a good game is key. Who is your back up QB and how much faith do you have in him?

2. Pressure. I see the offense break down pretty quickly when there's pressure and that's where Purdy often excels; it's also where plays go horribly wrong. If Oregon plays mostly a three man front and zone coverage I can see Purdy absolutely slicing and dicing through the Oregon defense. Purdy also needs to be spied because he's such a good runner. Which leads to the rub - If Oregon puts four hands down at the line and spies Purdy with a LB or nickle then your TEs run wild down the seams or on shallow crosses. Personally, I prefer the latter and take our chances.

3. Defense. I see a lot of three man fronts with very athletic "max effort" (as another poster put it) guys who can get to the QB. The base looks like a 3-3-5, perhaps an ISU fan could chime in with some additional insight. The safeties are fast and hit hard, one guy in particular. Saw a lot of soft zone coverage and not overwhelmed by the corner play. On the whole, though, there's speed on defense, they play smart, and tackle well.

4. Run Defense. Saw a lot of six guys in the box and a high safety. I know ISU has pride in their run defense but I think even Oregon's relatively inexperienced OL can make hay with that.

Anyhoo, just the ramblings of a mostly sober interet rando with a keyboard.

Ps. I have all sorts of critiques about Oregon as well so don't take the foregoing as chest thumping.

I'm impressed with the contributions from Duck Fans here - not only of their team, but how they strategize the game vs ISU.

 

[JM4CY]

I'm impressed with the contributions from Duck Fans here - not only of their team, but how they strategize the game vs ISU.

Maybe they are Tom Herman-ing us and taking it to their coaching staff.

 

[Go2Guy]

Maybe they are Tom Herman-ing us and taking it to their coaching staff.

LOl, but compared to the "other" folks in the rival board, these Duck folks are good

 

[JM4CY]

LOl, but compared to the "other" folks in the rival board, these Duck folks are good

Agreed. They aren’t total dooshbags