Marvel Cinematic Universe

For those who have seen it.. Venom: Thumbs up or Thumbs Down

  • Thumbs Up

    Votes: 87 61.3%
  • Thumbs Down

    Votes: 55 38.7%

  • Total voters
    142
I wish Disney/Marvel was more upfront with what these shows are. I'm worried that initial reception may not be great just due to the length of the series. The MCU series aren't really traditional series, like The Mandalorian: They are more like standalone mini-series, like what ABC did in the 90s (ex. IT, The Langoliers, The Jackson 5, etc). WandaVision is 6 episodes long and the other MCU series will be between 6-8 episodes long. My guess is total run-time will be around 3 hours, just slightly longer than a Marvel movie, but also means the episodes would be 30-40 minutes. There won't likely be sequels to some of these series either, I doubt there will be a WandaVision Season 2 - if these characters return to Disney+ it would be a TV event under a different name. She-Hulk, Moon Knight and Ms Marvel are the only characters that I could see get a 2nd Disney+ event just because they are the newest characters.
That's good to know heading in as I wasn't aware of this regarding running time.
 
Been working my way through The Mandalorian S2 and just watched the third episode last night, which is the Bo Katan episode. Anyway, I found it cool how much that series has been reusing MCU actors, most particularly Agents of Shield actors. Last season introduced Ming-Na Wen (Shield Agent May) in the show and this episode I just watched featured Titus Welliver (Shield Agent Blake), Simon Kassianides (Hydra Agent Sunil Bakshi), and apparently the two pilots had minor Shield agent roles in the series.

Katy O'Brian was another one, she had a small role Kimball on AoS and has been in some other sci-fi kind of stuff (Z nation, Black lightning), she's been the comms officer on Moff Gideon's ship. There's a lot of theories out there that this is a bigger role, eventually.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Triggermv
When I was growing up, Marvel would release basically these encyclopedia things that were basically just a roster of their characters, where they fit in the Marvel universe, their powers, and some major plots for them. A lot of this stuff happened before I was reading comics and it kind of bought me up to date with them. I absolutely loved those.

Yeah, I loved those too. I only had about six marvel comics and a friend let me borrow one of those "handbooks" and it blew my mind. Two of the earliest Marvel comics I had were Barry Windsor Smith's Weapon X issues of Marvel Presents that really crushed most of the art of the time.

Then my next exposure was a friend had the Infinity Gauntlet six issue series that he let me borrow to read. I think I read it five times before I gave it back.

At that time Marvel would repack massive print run issues to big box stores and about a year later I bought the Infinity Gauntlet series packed up like that in a Wal-Mart, small Nebrasaka town I was living in didn't have comic shop. I think it was $8 and I immediately grabbed it not believing my luck. Still have them and even in less than mint condition and high print run condition they are finally starting to move up in value quite a bit since it's basically the comics that are MCU culmination. When I did get to a comic shop in Omaha I bought the "Thanos Quest" two part trade paperbacks that show him collecting the gems. I was surprised that didn't skyrocket in value because they are very low print run and central to MCU but they are finally going up too.

I also collected the trading card series that had powers stat ratings on the back and hologram chase cards.
 
Yeah, I loved those too. I only had about six marvel comics and a friend let me borrow one of those "handbooks" and it blew my mind. Two of the earliest Marvel comics I had were Barry Windsor Smith's Weapon X issues of Marvel Presents that really crushed most of the art of the time.

Then my next exposure was a friend had the Infinity Gauntlet six issue series that he let me borrow to read. I think I read it five times before I gave it back.

At that time Marvel would repack massive print run issues to big box stores and about a year later I bought the Infinity Gauntlet series packed up like that in a Wal-Mart, small Nebrasaka town I was living in didn't have comic shop. I think it was $8 and I immediately grabbed it not believing my luck. Still have them and even in less than mint condition and high print run condition they are finally starting to move up in value quite a bit since it's basically the comics that are MCU culmination. When I did get to a comic shop in Omaha I bought the "Thanos Quest" two part trade paperbacks that show him collecting the gems. I was surprised that didn't skyrocket in value because they are very low print run and central to MCU but they are finally going up too.

I also collected the trading card series that had powers stat ratings on the back and hologram chase cards.

You guys are a bunch of nerds.

Now if you excuse me I'm gonna go back to reading Marvel character articles on Wikipedia like all the cool kids do.
 
You guys are a bunch of nerds.

Now if you excuse me I'm gonna go back to reading Marvel character articles on Wikipedia like all the cool kids do.

Hey these cards told me EXACTLY how powerful every hero was compared to others.
1992-Marvel-Universe-3-Base-Spider-Man-Back.jpg

74960-5336792Bk.jpg
 

While we all await the release of the first episodes of WandaVision next week on Disney+, it maybe have gone missed that the first new MCU content released in over a year actually came out today. The first couple episodes of Marvel Studios: Legends came out today, with one episode chronicling Scarlet Witches MCU history up until now, and the other chronicling Visions path so far. Granted, these aren't exactly new stories, but they will likely be good things to watch ahead of WandaVision in order to get a recap on both characters.
 

While we all await the release of the first episodes of WandaVision next week on Disney+, it maybe have gone missed that the first new MCU content released in over a year actually came out today. The first couple episodes of Marvel Studios: Legends came out today, with one episode chronicling Scarlet Witches MCU history up until now, and the other chronicling Visions path so far. Granted, these aren't exactly new stories, but they will likely be good things to watch ahead of WandaVision in order to get a recap on both characters.

Those two videos were useless.

Maybe I’m just sick of waiting
 

First round of social media reactions have come out for WandaVision and they seem VERY high on the show. Granted, while its definitely encouraging to see these positive thoughts versus the opposite, after both seeing the initial really positive reactions to Wonder Woman 1984 and then finally watching the movie and its subsequent drop on Rotten Tomatoes, I'm starting to become more and more skeptical of any first waves of reactions for anything. Wonder Woman 1984 isn't the first for this to happen either, but rather is one more data point in a growing trend. I actually do believe the initial critics are being honest in their thoughts and I don't believe studios are paying them to get favorable thoughts. HOWEVER, I'm of the camp that believes that a lot of why we tend to see favorable reactions in the initial wave followed by unfavorable coming later, is due to who the studio intentionally invites to these early screenings. Again, that isn't to say they are influencing them, but rather just being intentional with inviting critics they believe are more prone to like their movies in general than others. Do I blame the studios for doing this? No. However, my weight I put on the first round of reactions is dropping like a rock lately.
 

First round of social media reactions have come out for WandaVision and they seem VERY high on the show. Granted, while its definitely encouraging to see these positive thoughts versus the opposite, after both seeing the initial really positive reactions to Wonder Woman 1984 and then finally watching the movie and its subsequent drop on Rotten Tomatoes, I'm starting to become more and more skeptical of any first waves of reactions for anything. Wonder Woman 1984 isn't the first for this to happen either, but rather is one more data point in a growing trend. I actually do believe the initial critics are being honest in their thoughts and I don't believe studios are paying them to get favorable thoughts. HOWEVER, I'm of the camp that believes that a lot of why we tend to see favorable reactions in the initial wave followed by unfavorable coming later, is due to who the studio intentionally invites to these early screenings. Again, that isn't to say they are influencing them, but rather just being intentional with inviting critics they believe are more prone to like their movies in general than others. Do I blame the studios for doing this? No. However, my weight I put on the first round of reactions is dropping like a rock lately.

I stopped checking, so maybe I'm off. Have those drops happened mainly in movies focused on female leads, like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel?
 
I stopped checking, so maybe I'm off. Have those drops happened mainly in movies focused on female leads, like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel?

Hard to tell. It happens to some extent with pretty much all nerd-genre movies, but to differing levels with some of them, especially more recently. The trend has been growing for a few years now, with Rise of Skywalker and Wonder Woman 1984 probably being the biggest discrepancies lately. Honestly, most of the releases we've been getting lately simply have been female-led, so I don't know that it is partially the cause or simply the reflection of an ever-growing trend. Also I believe at play with a movie like Wonder Woman 1984 is the pressure of being one of the first reviews out there. The first film was widely beloved by nearly everyone, including me. Now, we've got the next installment with the same team leading the way still intact, so if an initial critic didn't know what to think of the film afterwards, do they really want to be one of the first out there to bash the movie only to be followed by everyone else praising it? Maybe they end up questioning themselves a bit to the point where it influences their review. This same scenario I believe played out very similarly with Spider-Man 3 as well. Believe it or not, that terrible movie still has a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which is borderline absurd.
 
Last edited:
Hard to tell. It happens to some extent with pretty much all nerd-genre movies, but to differing levels with some of them, especially more recently. The trend has been growing for a few years now, with Rise of Skywalker and Wonder Woman 1984 probably being the biggest discrepancies lately. Honestly, most of the releases we've been getting lately simply have been female-led, so I don't know that it is partially the cause or simply the reflection of an ever-growing trend. Also I believe at play with a movie like Wonder Woman 1984 is the pressure of being one of the first reviews out there. The first film was widely beloved by nearly everyone, including me. Now, we've got the next installment with the same team leading the way still intact, so if an initial critic didn't know what to think of the film afterwards, do they really want to be one of the first out there to bash the movie only to be followed by everyone else praising it? Maybe they end up questioning themselves a bit to the point where it influences their review. This same scenario I believe played out very similarly with Spider-Man 3 as well. Believe it or not, that terrible movie still has a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which is borderline absurd.

I'd forgotten the Star Wars debacle. I seem to remember that we found there was some foreign political influence there, like Russian bots and all that.
 

Kevin Feige talks about whether certain shows will get multiple seasons. My takeaway is that some of them won't because they aren't built to be intended to while others will and are built more that way.
 

HOWEVER, I'm of the camp that believes that a lot of why we tend to see favorable reactions in the initial wave followed by unfavorable coming later, is due to who the studio intentionally invites to these early screenings.

This has been covered ad nauseum but I don't think that's it. The Last Jedi for example had an A+ CinemaScore. The ratings only got bad when the nerds and Russian bots (literally 50% of the reviews on RT were from bots) made a concerted effort to trash the movie. That isn't to say people can't have feelings one way or another but I don't thing there is anything to be gleaned one way or another.
 

Kevin Feige talks about whether certain shows will get multiple seasons. My takeaway is that some of them won't because they aren't built to be intended to while others will and are built more that way.

It is looking like Loki is getting a second season