Two Big XII team in NY6 bowls

[theshadow]

I looked. 2016 and 2017 when Big 12 only got one team in, the runner up both years (Ok St & TCU) was the #13 team and first team out. If we stay in the top 12 (even with a CCG loss) we should be good. Which means it has to be a good game and close loss, but hey, let's just win and remove all doubt.

Oklahoma State was #12 in 2016. They didn't get in (and neither did #10 Colorado) because there were automatic spots taken by lower-ranked teams (#14 Auburn as the second SEC team and #15 Western Michigan as the G5 rep).

In 2017, the bigger hurdle was that the Sugar was a semi so there was no soft landing spot for a second Big 12 team -- unlike 2015, when #16 OSU got the second spot over #11 TCU due to the head-to-head win.

That's why it's important that there are as few automatic spots taken by teams outside the top 12. This year, #11 may be the cutoff thanks to the Pac-12.

 

[flycy]

Warmer than Dallas and Fiesta has a bigger name from BCS days than the cotton. The Phx 10-12 band monster NY party downtown can be a lot of fun also. Nice to walk around in T-shirt and shorts

No fans at the Fiesta this year though. Fiesta and Rose have already announced no fans.

 

[BCClone]

No fans at the Fiesta this year though. Fiesta and Rose have already announced no fans.

Yep, was talking in non 2020 terms.

 

[Urbandale2013]

No fans at the Fiesta this year though. Fiesta and Rose have already announced no fans.

What’s the chance they have to move the Rose bowl? I know there were at least talks of SF moving their games on the road. I think it sounded like Cal and Stanford were doing the same.

 

[BCClone]

What’s the chance they have to move the Rose bowl? I know there were at least talks of SF moving their games on the road. I think it sounded like Cal and Stanford were doing the same.

Didn’t think of that. Interesting.

 

[Cydkar]

At this point, ISU fans need to cheer against the following teams.

Georgia - Plays Mizzo
Indiana - Plays Purdue and then either OSU/IOWA/WIS
Miami - Plays UNC
Northwestern - Illinois and then BIG Champ
Texas AM - Tennesse
Florida - LSU/BAMA

Cincy or Coastal will get the Gof5 Bid and it's highly unlikely both will make it. Florida and A&M will most likely get in even with a second loss over us. The big ones are IU/UM/UGA/NW. It's 5 teams for 3 spots.

If Indiana plays Iowa, I will be rooting for Indiana.

That is all.

 

[qwerty]

Oklahoma State was #12 in 2016. They didn't get in (and neither did #10 Colorado) because there were automatic spots taken by lower-ranked teams (#14 Auburn as the second SEC team and #15 Western Michigan as the G5 rep).

In 2017, the bigger hurdle was that the Sugar was a semi so there was no soft landing spot for a second Big 12 team -- unlike 2015, when #16 OSU got the second spot over #11 TCU due to the head-to-head win.

That's why it's important that there are as few automatic spots taken by teams outside the top 12. This year, #11 may be the cutoff thanks to the Pac-12.

Thanks for correcting me. I only looked at season results and it showed both teams as #13 when they played their bowl games. I assumed that was CFP ranking but it could have been AP.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

What’s the chance they have to move the Rose bowl? I know there were at least talks of SF moving their games on the road. I think it sounded like Cal and Stanford were doing the same.

I hope they move it to Duke in a callback to 1942 which got moved to Durham because of Pearl Harbor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_Rose_Bowl

 

[Cyforce]

Not sure why you're discussing this Iowa State is going to beat Oklahoma.

 

[theshadow]

Top-12 teams left out from 2014-19:
#11 Kansas State (2014)
#10 North Carolina (2015)
#11 TCU (2015)
#10 Colorado (2016)
#12 Oklahoma State (2016)
#12 Penn State (2018)
#11 Utah (2019)
#12 Auburn (2019)

How they got bumped:
Kansas State - by #20 Boise State (G5 rep)
North Carolina - by #16 Oklahoma State (Big 12/Sugar contract)
TCU - by #18 Houston (G5 rep)
Colorado - by #14 Auburn (SEC/Sugar contract)
Oklahoma State - by #15 Western Michigan (G5 rep)
Penn State - by #15 Texas (Big 12/Sugar contract)
Utah - by #17 Memphis (G5 rep)
Auburn - by #24 Virginia (ACC/Orange contract)

 

[Clark]

ISU going to NY6 with 3 losses probably depends on how close the the Big 12 title game is.

It's such an odd year for bowls I'm not sure how anyone can guess where teams will end up.

 

[Rogue52]

CW isn't known for always being right. Most bowl projections have us in the Alamo bowl

College football bowl projections: Clemson up to No. 2 in playoff, Texas A&M among New Year's Six changes

Jerry Palm's updated College Football Playoff and bowl projections after Week 14 of the season

www.cbssports.com

New college football bowl projections released

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247sports.com

While I don't disagree with you, don't use media bowl projections to prove your point unless they are coming from Brett McMurphy.

 

[CloneIce]

Top-12 teams left out from 2014-19:
#11 Kansas State (2014)
#10 North Carolina (2015)
#11 TCU (2015)
#10 Colorado (2016)
#12 Oklahoma State (2016)
#12 Penn State (2018)
#11 Utah (2019)
#12 Auburn (2019)

How they got bumped:
Kansas State - by #20 Boise State (G5 rep)
North Carolina - by #16 Oklahoma State (Big 12/Sugar contract)
TCU - by #18 Houston (G5 rep)
Colorado - by #14 Auburn (SEC/Sugar contract)
Oklahoma State - by #15 Western Michigan (G5 rep)
Penn State - by #15 Texas (Big 12/Sugar contract)
Utah - by #17 Memphis (G5 rep)
Auburn - by #24 Virginia (ACC/Orange contract)

Nice work putting this together. Great info.

 

[CySmurf]

I tend to lean that if we win it's the Cotton, if we lose it's the Alamo.

I think that is most likely although depending on other games, we'd still have an outside chance even with a loss.

Keep in mind I heard the Fiesta bowl isn't allowing fans...other than immediate family members this year.

 

[MeanDean]

Keep in mind I heard the Fiesta bowl isn't allowing fans...other than immediate family members this year.

Any player parents willing to adopt?

 

[Clonefan32]

I can understand debate about where we fall, but the potential of Indiana being ahead of us makes me irate. They capitalized on early publicity for beating what we now know is a horrendous Penn State team, and credit for beating a vastly overrated Wisconsin team. They haven't beaten a soul.

 

[Cyclone27inQC]

I can understand debate about where we fall, but the potential of Indiana being ahead of us makes me irate. They capitalized on early publicity for beating what we now know is a horrendous Penn State team, and credit for beating a vastly overrated Wisconsin team. They haven't beaten a soul.

The whole big 10 is total trash and I hope they look at SOS.

 

[cycfan1]

Frankly there's a lot yet to play out and it's premature to say ISU/Oklahoma for sure will or won't get in with a loss.

If Georgia, Miami, Indiana, Cincinnati, and Coastal all win out its going to be tough. If say three of those teams pick up a loss it's almost guaranteed 2 Big XII teams make it (provided OU beats WV). If one or two of those teams lose a game it's seems like a toss up and would depend on how close the Big XII championship game is.

Coastal AND Cinncinati are not going to NY6 games... the system is slanted towards P5 conferences and there is no way they are going to take anymore than obligated.

 

[VeloClone]

Coastal AND Cinncinati are not going to NY6 games... the system is slanted towards P5 conferences and there is no way they are going to take anymore than obligated.

I wouldn't count on anything since Snaggletooth Gary is the chair this year.

 

[Cydkar]

Any player parents willing to adopt?

Or...any single moms wanna get hitched?