Cyclonepride
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Any actual Iowa State fans here? Doesn't seem like it.
*** Official DePaul vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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Back to DePaul, any additional info how this cluster-eff even occurred?
I mean, it's bothering me more than it should that the opposing team is in town the day before, practicing in our facilities the day of the game, and gets to cancel an hour before tipoff. For the sake of staff and fans there should be a final determination long before one of the teams is on the court warming up.
Wouldn't we as the host school require DePaul to complete testing the day before, before they even jump on the plane? I know all departments do not have the same resources, but at a bare minimum I would assume any college program is at least doing a rapid test the day before a game. Or for some of these non-con opponents, are we offering up our own rapid test results through Vet Med once they arrive in town?
And on the financial side, are these kinds of non-con games paid for by ISU? And do we still have to pay them?
I mean, it's bothering me more than it should that the opposing team is in town the day before, practicing in our facilities the day of the game, and gets to cancel an hour before tipoff. For the sake of staff and fans there should be a final determination long before one of the teams is on the court warming up.
Wouldn't we as the host school require DePaul to complete testing the day before, before they even jump on the plane? I know all departments do not have the same resources, but at a bare minimum I would assume any college program is at least doing a rapid test the day before a game. Or for some of these non-con opponents, are we offering up our own rapid test results through Vet Med once they arrive in town?
And on the financial side, are these kinds of non-con games paid for by ISU? And do we still have to pay them?
CycloneErik
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They start out like that every game, it seems.
When I've seen them, they feed Garza right away, a whole lot. He dominates, and then they run away from there.
Cyclonepride
Thought Police
Ah, the fair weather fans
I don’t think it’ll make a difference, but what’s our strategy going to be this year?
Last year we started off doubling Garza every time, but that just left their shooters open. Do we “let” Garza get his, then try to lock down everyone else?
Last year we started off doubling Garza every time, but that just left their shooters open. Do we “let” Garza get his, then try to lock down everyone else?
Do we know if they all were tested before getting on the plane and those tests all came back negative? I haven't seen enough reporting to know the answer to this question. It's possible they all were negative before traveling then had a positive after arriving.
I really don't see a way this year. If you "let" Garza get his, he will score 40+ on us. This one is just going to be a beatdown, but hopefully the players can learn a little something? I'm really trying to find some upside
Absolutely nothing is imperative in this season, and asking this team to to play a top 3 team tough honestly isn't fair.
I really don't see a way this year. If you "let" Garza get his, he will score 40+ on us. This one is just going to be a beatdown, but hopefully the players can learn a little something? I'm really trying to find some upside
I don’t see it either, just wondering what we’re going to try. The IA guys like Jorbo and Weeze will be itching to score as much as possible, so I don’t want to leave them open from 3.
At the same time, if we just let Garza score it will be a track meet, and we don’t have the weapons to keep up with that.
I really don't see a way this year. If you "let" Garza get his, he will score 40+ on us. This one is just going to be a beatdown, but hopefully the players can learn a little something? I'm really trying to find some upside
I still think you double Garza and just hope they are cold in a weird environment with no fans. Weiskamp and JBo have been ice cold this year.
Yeah this is about the only route you can take. Leaving Garza 1 on 1 and he is almost guaranteed to score a bunch and do it very efficiently. Make him earn all his points and hope they are off from 3.
About any time I've seen Garza he just shoves his way to the hoop so you'd probably need a pretty strong defender to stand up and create the offensive foul on him.
I didn't see last year's game but it sounded like ISU was there for a YMCA/rec league type of game in HILTON when flying around vs. any P6 opponent should be normal.
CSP should just play the newbies and let them ball out and see what happens.
That’s what I’m getting at. Our big men aren’t going to stop him anyway, so do we treat that as a “sunk cost” and try to improve in other areas?
And I have no illusions that we are just debating things that will keep the margin down or not. I just want us to be more prepared than we were last year. That was awful.
I mean I wish they played and I wish they would have won. That said I can recognize that I don’t think that we’re going to win and my blood pressure is better off not watching them.
I still would have watched and cheered if they had played. That is the opposite of fair weather.
I would prefer this approach. Giving up 2s is better than giving up 3s.
Plenty of Iowa State fans on this board. What are you wanting to discuss? Are we supposed to be optimistic about losing to South Dakota State. I feel slightly better after watching South Dakota State beat Bradley in Peoria. I would have liked to see the progress, or lack thereof, on display against DePaul. As far as the Iowa game we need to come out of the gates locked in.
I would like to see a Steve Prohm coached team locked in defensively and motivated to play against Iowa. At the 8:00 mark in the first half these have been the following scores against Iowa in his five years.
2015--Iowa 33 Iowa State 19
2016--Iowa 26 Iowa State 17
2017--Iowa State 20 Iowa 19
2018--Iowa 30 Iowa State 24
2019--Iowa 28 Iowa State 14
This is the first 12 minutes of game time. In the last five years Iowa has scored 27.2 points on average in the first 12 minutes of game time against us. 2.26 points per minute is ridiculously bad. This is preparation and attention to detail.
So what I would like to see is Iowa State locked in defensively and to be within 2-3 points of Iowa at the 8:00 minute TV timeout in the first half. If they can compete for 12 minutes then I will consider that a small positive and step in the right direction.
As a bonus request I would like to not be down by 17 points to Iowa at any point during the game. We been able to avoid that one time in the five attempts under CSP.
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