Merged Covid Megathread

[simply1]

I just want to make sure that you realize that that article is talking about it being used as a prophylaxis Not as treatment post infection. Not only that the study was terminated early so it’s basically worthless.

Meaning Among hospital-based health care workers, daily hydroxychloroquine did not prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection, although the trial was terminated early and may have been underpowered to detect a clinically important difference.

TLDR: what you posted is trash.

Yes, I read what I post. You seem unable to remove your feelings from conversations regarding Covid, I made no comment or insinuation that this study had anything to do with it as a post infection treatment.
Maybe work on not letting your biases destroy your thinking ability.

 

[simply1]

Did you even read that before you posted it?

It’s not my problem you assign intent to what I post that is blatantly untrue and idiocy.

 

[Angie]

If you have an endless line of patients, perhaps. But we all know they don't have an unlimited supply of new patients.

Otherwise, they would be able to give us an estimated cost upfront, like just about any other industry.

Well, fortunately for you, both of those have been taken care of! COVID has supplied hospitals with more patients than they can handle, and CMS has mandated a transparency in price estimates for 2021: LINK

So, what actual data do you have then?

 

[mynameisjonas]

Yes, I read what I post. You seem unable to remove your feelings from conversations regarding Covid, I made no comment or insinuation that this study had anything to do with it as a post infection treatment.
Maybe work on not letting your biases destroy your thinking ability.

So what is your insinuation then? This study seems inconclusive at best, but maybe not to a biased person such as yourself.

 

[kcbob79clone]

I obviously disagree with him on literally everything possible, probably even the direction TP goes on the roll. But with that said, I wish no harm on anyone and hope he and his family recover fully.

There are a ton of unknowns right now with where this all goes, but with an increasing spread in many places and a cold season knocking, all should be ready for a bumpy end to the hell known as 2020.

A potential positive to come out of this is an increase in realization that protective measures are still necessary.

 

[kcbob79clone]

Michigan Athletics Covid testing proves that protective measures can work. Also proves that we will probably never reach 0% positive tests.

Michigan athletics reports 2 new COVID-19 cases of 1,173 tests

Friday, the Michigan athletic department unveiled its latest update on COVID-19 coronavirus testing of student-athletes and athletics staff on campus.

247sports.com

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Hopefully this changes the minds of people who think it's a hoax and others who make fun of masks like our president did at the debate three days ago.

It's not the virus that's a hoax. It's the unscientific "social" remedies. And I don't know.....but when the end all be all scientist Dr. Fauci has been 6 ways to Sunday on masks........I would make fun of it also.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

No worries, I’m sure his doc already put him on: hcq, zinc, vitamin d and c and an antibiotic. Since they caught it early they should be able to stop viral replication.

I have no idea what they are giving him........but antibiotics do nothing to stop viral replication.

 

[simply1]

So what is your insinuation then? This study seems inconclusive at best, but maybe not to a biased person such as yourself.

I’m not insinuating anything, if I had a narrative I would post it. It’s a peer reviewed published study, not something from a politically biased tweeter. Maybe that’s too hard to wrap your head around or maybe you prefer your “facts” filtered.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Michigan Athletics Covid testing proves that protective measures can work. Also proves that we will probably never reach 0% positive tests.

Michigan athletics reports 2 new COVID-19 cases of 1,173 tests

Friday, the Michigan athletic department unveiled its latest update on COVID-19 coronavirus testing of student-athletes and athletics staff on campus.

247sports.com

You know.......protective measures work with the flu also. If someone has a 102 fever, coughing and hacking and goes to hug grandma.......it isn't because the flu isn't dangerous.....it's because they are dumb as a bag of hammers.

 

[mynameisjonas]

I have no idea what they are giving him........but antibiotics do nothing to stop viral replication.

The antibiotics would be to protect against a potential secondary bacterial infection.

 

[simply1]

President Donald Trump’s doctor says Trump is being treated with an experimental drug aimed at supplying antibodies to help fight his coronavirus infection.

Antibodies are proteins the body makes when an infection occurs. They attach to a virus and help it be eliminated. But it can take weeks for them to form. The drugs are purified versions of ones that seemed to work best in lab and animal tests.

Trump is receiving a two-antibody combo drug that’s currently in late-stage studies from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. The company previously developed a successful treatment for Ebola using a similar approach.

It’s given as a one-time treatment through an IV.

Trump’s physician, Dr. Sean Conley, said the drug was being given “as a precautionary measure,” and that Trump also was taking zinc, vitamin D, an antacid called famotidine, melatonin and aspirin. None of those have been proven to be effective against COVID-19.

Trump apparently is not receiving hydroxychloroquine, a drug he widely promoted that has been shown in many studies to be ineffective for preventing or treating COVID-19.

 

[simply1]

The antibiotics would be to protect against a potential secondary bacterial infection.

Better call up his doctors

 

[mynameisjonas]

Better call up his doctors

Nah I think they got it covered. Im sure his doctors will treat him and not feel obligated to report every medicine that he’s taking to the caring and honest media.

 

[ArgentCy]

Well, fortunately for you, both of those have been taken care of! COVID has supplied hospitals with more patients than they can handle, and CMS has mandated a transparency in price estimates for 2021: LINK

So, what actual data do you have then?

Is that why they were all going broke? Very, very few hospitals have many Covid patients. Gee, I feel like its April again. Cancelling all the other procedures just put a world of hurt on many of these places.

 

[ArgentCy]

Nah I think they got it covered. Im sure his doctors will treat him and not feel obligated to report every medicine that he’s taking to the caring and honest media.

They should come out and say that they've successfully treated him with a good dose of cleaner and light. That would be fun.

 

[ArgentCy]

Well, fortunately for you, both of those have been taken care of! COVID has supplied hospitals with more patients than they can handle, and CMS has mandated a transparency in price estimates for 2021: LINK

So, what actual data do you have then?

You know you just promoted an EO from our current President. Check Mate.

A small step but this industry has a long, LONG, way to go.

 

[CloneLawman]

You know you just promoted an EO from our current President. Check Mate.

A small step but this industry has a long, LONG, way to go.

Four-dimensional chess moves from a stable genius, @Angie! Watch out. You've apparently been checkmated.

 

[Angie]

Is that why they were all going broke? Very, very few hospitals have many Covid patients. Gee, I feel like its April again. Cancelling all the other procedures just put a world of hurt on many of these places.

...I enjoy you trying constantly to change the subject, but the fact of the matter is just, simply, that you're 100% incorrect about hospitals being more profitable by stringing out stays. You do realize that individual departments within a hospital have different functions, right? So if the areas in which the patients might have longer stays (usually adult med/telemetry, ICU, and oncology) stay full and can't take on new patients, they're losing funds - and those are generally the areas with the highest census? Keeping a patient longer in these areas prevents them from being able to take on new patients. You can't generally just pivot and make a different department take in those new patients (with a few exceptions).

I'm still awaiting your documentation that it is more profitable to keep one patient longer than to turn them out and bring in several new. I appreciate you trying to deflect, but your position is still incorrect, and you know it.

You know you just promoted an EO from our current President. Check Mate.

A small step but this industry has a long, LONG, way to go.

Surely you're not trying to get this thread sent to the Cave, are you? I'd recommend you edit your post. I'm going to guess the other posters who would like to keep this out of the Cave would agree. @kcbob79clone ?

I'm neither promoting or disparaging this decision, and I don't think that absolutely everything that any president has done is good or bad. There's no "check mate" - your position that a hospital makes more money for longer stays than for initial days is still false. This conversation wasn't at all about politics (until your attempt to deflect); it's about your basic misunderstanding of the healthcare industry.

 

[NWICY]

Meat plant workers being denied workers' compensation for COVID:

Meat Plant Workers Being Denied Workers' Compensation for COVID-19: Reuters

Saul Sanchez died in April, one of six workers with fatal COVID-19 infections at meatpacker JBS USA's slaughterhouse in Greeley, Colorado, the site of one

www.insurancejournal.com

Between the way packers treat their employees and the producers, it never fails to disappoint me. The vertical consolidation of the packing industry is no good for anyone other than the packing co. shareholders.