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We need to stop with the dumping on the college kids here.
I haven't seen any age group taking this seriously yet.

this is true. But also if you put a college kid in a situation to fail, you’re going to most likely get failure. Set them up to succeed, and you’ve got a 50/50 chance of success.
 
We need to stop with the dumping on the college kids here.
I haven't seen any age group taking this seriously yet.
It sure looked like I was dumping on college kids. Agreed. I'm going to delete that post and modify this one a bit. I've got 3 in college. I've fairly recently taught adjunct classes. I have zero animus against college kids in general. I do agree with you that there are no age group demographics not screwing the pooch on taking the pandemic seriously. College agers have some particularly huge challenges right now, many of which were present even before the pandemic. I will hope that where the rubber meets the road that many of them will make choices that consider the impact of their actions on those more at risk.
 
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i don’t think we know if the reopening has caused less hospitalizations yet. Places like Texas and Florida are getting close to bad situations based on hospital availability.

The panic porn in Texas is definitely increasing, but the hospitalizations do not seem to be a problem. According to today's Texas Department of State Health Services COVID-19 tracker, there are 14,260 available hospital beds out of 54,642, for an occupancy rate of 74%. Of course, there are plenty of overwrought new stories decrying the "rise in hospitalizations" when it's simply a matter of increased testing combined with many people now going in for "non-essential" treatments they deferred from March to May.
 
The panic porn in Texas is definitely increasing, but the hospitalizations do not seem to be a problem. According to today's Texas Department of State Health Services COVID-19 tracker, there are 14,260 available hospital beds out of 54,642, for an occupancy rate of 74%. Of course, there are plenty of overwrought new stories decrying the "rise in hospitalizations" when it's simply a matter of increased testing combined with many people now going in for "non-essential" treatments they deferred from March to May.
You don’t go to the hospital due to testing. You go because you have serious symptoms. I’m sure Texas will try to get to 100% as fast as they can. 74% is not trying hard enough.
 
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The panic porn in Texas is definitely increasing, but the hospitalizations do not seem to be a problem. According to today's Texas Department of State Health Services COVID-19 tracker, there are 14,260 available hospital beds out of 54,642, for an occupancy rate of 74%. Of course, there are plenty of overwrought new stories decrying the "rise in hospitalizations" when it's simply a matter of increased testing combined with many people now going in for "non-essential" treatments they deferred from March to May.

What is the normal % of those hospital beds in use? Also did the state add more in response to COVID?
 
The panic porn in Texas is definitely increasing, but the hospitalizations do not seem to be a problem. According to today's Texas Department of State Health Services COVID-19 tracker, there are 14,260 available hospital beds out of 54,642, for an occupancy rate of 74%. Of course, there are plenty of overwrought new stories decrying the "rise in hospitalizations" when it's simply a matter of increased testing combined with many people now going in for "non-essential" treatments they deferred from March to May.

People need to stop with this BS excuse of increased testing being the cause. Go look at the actual stats and it’s a very different story. The number of tests is rising at a much lower rate than the new infections, AND the percentage of positive tests coming back is raising quickly. In Texas, Florida, and Arizona where cases are going up quickly, even their Republican governors have stated it isn’t an increase in testing driving larger numbers, it’s community spread.

Maybe if our national leaders would stop spreading more lies and disinformation than all our enemies combined, people would take this seriously. It’s not fiction and it’s not the end of the world, but common sense approaches need to be universal (social distancing when out, wearing a mask, etc).
 
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I'm not dumping on college kids. I'm responding directly to a particular poster's short-sighted choice of words. Believe me, I've got 3 in college. I've fairly recently taught adjunct classes. I have zero animus against college kids in general. I do agree with you that there are no age group demographics not screwing the pooch on taking the pandemic seriously. College agers have some particularly huge challenges right now.

Your post was just there after seeing that several times, and I figured you could handle being quoted better than a few others.
 
Your post was just there after seeing that several times, and I figured you could handle being quoted better than a few others.

Understood. Im not losing my **** over it. I appreciate the feedback as the context wasnt readily apparent and the message was a throwaway. I have deleted the post.
 
https://www.amestrib.com/news/20200...reclose-due-to-covid-19-spike-in-story-county

I have no data to support anything I say, but my impression is that [bars] are [playing a part in this],” Paschen said during a Monday night meeting where the county’s board discussed mitigation strategies to stop the virus’ spread. “It’s kind of what college students do. They go to bars and they talk and there’s close contact ... so I think [bars] probably do play a big part in this.
 
The panic porn in Texas is definitely increasing, but the hospitalizations do not seem to be a problem. According to today's Texas Department of State Health Services COVID-19 tracker, there are 14,260 available hospital beds out of 54,642, for an occupancy rate of 74%. Of course, there are plenty of overwrought new stories decrying the "rise in hospitalizations" when it's simply a matter of increased testing combined with many people now going in for "non-essential" treatments they deferred from March to May.
Call it porn or stick a feather in your hat and call it macaroni. I think I will give a bit more weight to comments of experts in Texas like Doc Peter Hotez.

 
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If you want to stop it you need to do a complete lockdown. Give everyone a week to stock up and just close everything including grocery stores.

That’s not going to happen like it should have already, things are opening more and more and going back to the “new normal”, there will be sports, there will be a percentage of fans in the stands. If we can do peaceful protests we can do sports.
 
College kids should go and have fun. Just stay away from parents and grand parents or any other elderly folk when out and about.
 
Actually some very respected studies showed the benefit of a 2-ply Cotten mask is anywhere between 50 and 65% effective, and possibly higher if used properly. That’s a pretty darn good return and would immediately impact the R0.

I just think in cases I have witnessed it is giving people who would obviously be really high risk a false sense of security about being out and about for non-essential stuff.
 
Vaccinating your kids......not wearing a mask uses essentially the same logic, just much more visible. "I'm not gonna wear a mask, but I'm secretly hoping everyone else will....."

Even when we get a vaccine I would bet at least 40% of the population won't get it.
 
I just think in cases I have witnessed it is giving people who would obviously be really high risk a false sense of security about being out and about for non-essential stuff.

Numerous studies disagree. Wearing a mask reduces the spread of the virus drastically. It's not even debatable at this point.