NO FANS AT CYCLONE GAMES?

[Clonefan32]

Again, priorities will be shifted but Iowa State can get by. I refuse to find it acceptable to prioritize money over the health of thousands and thousands of people. This isn't just about the people who would attend the games. I renewed my tickets but it's looking less and less likely that we will go.

That's fine, and I'm not saying your wrong. All said, I probably agree with you. I just think people need to be realistic about what the athletic department will look like if we don't have fans this years. In the grand scheme of things, maybe that's an unimportant consideration.

 

[theshadow]

Yep, my mistake. I forgot that she moved to the county board last year.

But if anything, that makes this recommendation even more politically risky for her.

She's ex-officio, though, and apparently doesn't have voting power. Just the other 5 do.

 

[cyfan92]

BTW - herd immunity requires at lease 70% of the population to be exposed, and recover (or die?). Without a calculator that we’ll be about 230,000,000 in the US.

Unless we start taking testing seriously and invest more into testing. We will not know if/when herd immunity is realized. I've tried to get a antibody test through my doctor at Unity Point, they don't have enough and since I'm young and healthy.. I got passed.

But I know 1 person for sure had COVID in my office after returning from a business conference in California this past January. 65 people shared an office with her until we all went home the last week of March

 

[OldCurmudgeon]

I don't think I can fight the urge to hi five everyone in my section after every touchdown. And there's going to be a lot of touchdowns

Just make sure to wear gloves when you do...

 

[dualthreat]

Unless we start taking testing seriously and invest more into testing. We will not know if/when herd immunity is realized. I've tried to get a antibody test through my doctor at Unity Point, they don't have enough and since I'm young and healthy.. I got passed.

But I know 1 person for sure had COVID in my office after returning from a business conference in California this past January. 65 people shared an office with her until we all went home the last week of March

What does that look like? Currently, 90% of Iowans tested test negative. Those tests aren't necessarily wasted, but increasing the number of tests might not be the answer.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Fully bankrupt? No. But I'd imagine you don't see anything more than MBB and football going forward. I can't see keeping up non-revenue sports with that big of a financial pitfall.

Since everyone is in the same boat, I would think that the non-revenue sports become much more regional on where they play their games for the out of conference portion of the schedule.

Looking at 2019 ISU softball as an example, tournaments in Tallahassee, Stanford, Charlestown, Phoenix, San Luis Obispo and Fullerton, may have to be given up for a year, and they either move back the season later in the spring, or play the games here in the cold weather or indoors where possible.

 

[DeereClone]

Do you believe every single case has the same outcome as your scenario?

Every case is handled that way. Outcomes are obviously going to be different in every situation.

 

[cyfan92]

Are you on the board? Do you run their finances? Do things like loans not exist? Have organizations all over the U.S. been renegotiating contracts with workers to take pay cuts to keep the organizations afloat?

Do you realize just how many options there are to keep things running on a temporary basis? It isn't as simple as "welp, less money this year, close up shop".

Temporary measures have already been taken with the loss in revenue from men's conference basketball revenue, loss of March Madness revenue. You can't cut your way out of no fans at football games unless Title 9 gets abolished and the Fed stimulates college sports

If football can't have fans.Then MBB definitely won't be happening. When does temporary end and long term begin?

 

[Chitowncy]

Lot of truth to that. Hope more people will watch it!

 

[Gunnerclone]

So, I was hoping someone would bring that up and it is a good point, but it doesn't hold water when you are talking about such a relatively small amount of the total.

People are talking about cutting programs because of a loss of revenue. There are more than enough available funds in the 1.3 billion to squeeze out a year of athletics at ISU. They have enough available resources to fund both for a year if they need to.

And if they don’t then JP isn’t the AD/accountant I thought he was. This isn’t a startup lawn care company.

 

[cygrads]

So only blue-bloods deserve to remain? As they can sustain the revenue losses

Unfortunately this crisis will only make the separation of the haves and have nots even greater.

 

[Skyh13]

Temporary measures have already been taken with the loss in revenue from men's conference basketball revenue, loss of March Madness revenue. You can't cut your way out of no fans at football games unless Title 9 gets abolished and the Fed stimulates college sports

If football can't have fans.Then MBB definitely won't be happening. When does temporary end and long term begin?

Why? What evidence do you have to suggest this? Just.. your own thoughts?

 

[Halincandenza]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29349067/patriot-league-restricts-travel-short-season

I have been waiting to see this kind of stuff from the smaller schools. This could be start a domino effect of other leagues following suit.

 

[cyfan92]

What does that look like? Currently, 90% of Iowans tested test negative. Those tests aren't necessarily wasted, but increasing the number of tests might not be the answer.

Only 1/12 Iowan's has been tested. So until there is a test for every person, yes we can have more. Plus there is a difference between the antibody test and the active test. We need more of both and it needs to be instant (or minimal lag time) and available on-demand. For example. I wish my parents could go get tested and not have to wait a day or two to know it's safe for them to hold their first grandchild this fall.

 

[jsb]

Unless we start taking testing seriously and invest more into testing. We will not know if/when herd immunity is realized. I've tried to get a antibody test through my doctor at Unity Point, they don't have enough and since I'm young and healthy.. I got passed.

But I know 1 person for sure had COVID in my office after returning from a business conference in California this past January. 65 people shared an office with her until we all went home the last week of March

unless you all got tested you have no idea who had no symptoms and potentially gave it to others.

there’s still such ignorance around this.

 

[Halincandenza]

Why? What evidence do you have to suggest this? Just.. your own thoughts?

Because at least Football is outside.

 

[Skyh13]

Because at least Football is outside.

I don't think cyfan is suggesting that there won't be any fans at MBB games, but that the MBB season wouldn't happen. Maybe I'm misinterpreting.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Temporary measures have already been taken with the loss in revenue from men's conference basketball revenue, loss of March Madness revenue. You can't cut your way out of no fans at football games unless Title 9 gets abolished and the Fed stimulates college sports

If football can't have fans.Then MBB definitely won't be happening. When does temporary end and long term begin?

I read the other day a doctor with the CDC saying that a vaccine was at least a year away. So for the next year at least this virus is going to be affecting our day to day lives.
How much it affects us will vary from person to person and from job to job, but its still going to be there until they come up with a vaccine.
If they play the games this fall without fans, at least ISU will be getting their share of the TV revenue, which should be enough to get them through the year with other cost savings measures.
I don't like it, but if we can at least watch the games on TV, then we will have something.
We have purchased our 4 season tickets for FB, right now we are on the fence about actually going to the games or rolling those seats over for the 2021 season. A lot will depend on the next 75 days.

 

[Halincandenza]

I don't think cyfan is suggesting that there won't be any fans at MBB games, but that the MBB season wouldn't happen. Maybe I'm misinterpreting.

Oh yeah I read that again. It does seem like he is saying it won't happen. I think if anything I could see them cancelling the non con and just having a conference season that starts in January.

 

[cyfan92]

Why? What evidence do you have to suggest this? Just.. your own thoughts?

Oh, you're serious... OK well for starters. One is inside and has recirculated air for ventilation. It's cold outside where COVID-19 lives longer on surfaces. Your immune system is weaker in winter months than during the summer. Should I go on?

https://www.rochesterregional.org/news/2020/05/coronavirus-spread-outside

"Researchers from Harvard Medical School, MIT, and other institutions found a reduction of coronavirus transmission in average temperatures above 77 degrees. The study found that each additional 1.8-degree increase in temperature resulted in an additional 3.1% reduction in the virus's reproduction number (called R-naught, the average number of new infections caused by one infected person)."

That said, the virus can still spread outside, but it's incredibly more safe. Same reason why the flu is much less of an issue in the summer vs colder months