2 ISU FB players have Coronavirus

[MeowingCows]

Just not true. It was known from the start that corona hit the elderly and the chronically ill extremely hard. LTCs locked down right at the start and received very little help from the government.

We didn't know d*** right at the beginning because we didn't trust anything coming from China, our head executive downplayed the thing altogether and also chose to ignore info given to us by the WHO, which at the time was mainly working in... China.

And, yet again, we still had nowhere else to put those sick people. Nobody else wanted them. Not families' homes, not hospitals, not out in the street. Nowhere to go. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but it sure seems like the many who complain about it don't have better suggestions, and that wasn't something we could wait forever to make a decision on.

But when we do, we get attacked as "hiding in our bedroom" and being "afraid" by the "back to normal" crowd who can't be bothered to take the slightest inconvenience for the lives of those who are at risk.

Correct. There's no room for discussion when the crowd equates occasionally wearing masks with cowering in our homes and closing the entire country down.

 

[MeowingCows]

We didn't know d*** right at the beginning because we didn't trust anything coming from China, our head executive downplayed the thing altogether and also chose to ignore info given to us by the WHO, which at the time was mainly working in... China.

And, yet again, we still had nowhere else to put those sick people. Nobody else wanted them. Not families' homes, not hospitals, not out in the street. Nowhere to go. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but it sure seems like the many who complain about it don't have better suggestions, and that wasn't something we could wait forever to make a decision on.

Correct. There's no room for discussion when the crowd equates occasionally wearing masks with cowering in our homes and closing the entire country down.

To expand on this: people keep looking back on past response thru the lens of info we have know that didn't exist months ago. On top of that, info that was needed was outwardly rejected by our nation's leadership. Which is why groups of states banded together to start handing COVID outbreaks on their own, out of leadership purview (which itself wasn't helping to a satisfactory level). Again, hindsight. A lot of tough decisions were made in short order with minimal reliable information about something that didn't even exist months prior.

 

[SpokaneCY]

You won't rely on the government to tell you what to do, yet you're wearing masks in public at times and avoiding places you deem dangerous...like the government told you do to do? You didn't just magically create these ideas yourself.

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One REALLY cool thing about self-reliance is common sense.

 

[SpokaneCY]

And some people are going to make decisions that negatively impact others because the information they believe in says that hardly anyone will die and those that do are old so whatever.

Welcome to the world - and why would you think it should work differently here? If we had a culture based primarily on "the whole is greater than the self" (think asian cultures), if we lived in a totalitarian country (NKorea, Russia), if we lived in a country that was the size of an average state and had little to no population diversity and the rights and responsibilities of the state vs. the State were crystal clear, maybe it would be different.

For ALL those reasons I am taking precautions for the health and wellness of myself and my family. I'm not tuning into the emergency broadband radio desperately waiting on word from the government on how, where and when to take care of myself.

You know why I wear a mask? It's a lot like standing for the anthem - it's a sign of respect and concern for my fellow man. I don't need to listen to ANYONE telling me that staying away from people during these times is the right thing to do. Many people will remain oblivious and they either will, or will not, pay the consequences. I'm not gambling with those folks any more than I'm gambling with the bubble crowd.

I KNOW those not obeying the common sense health stuff are making it harder and longer for everyone. But again, we don't live in that world - and that world likely never existed.

Be safe. Take precautions for your health and safety. Give dum$hits a wide berth.

 

[Rabbuk]

No, not an excuse. It's a proven concept that, on average, people will use the available information and apply it in a way that best suites their particular situation, in the spirit of self preservation. Blanket solutions simply are not as efficient or as effective as this.

I mean you're proof positive this is false. You just post info that affirms your mistaken beliefs.

 

[Cyclonepride]

I mean you're proof positive this is false. You just post info that affirms your mistaken beliefs.

I do everything that is recommended. So you are arguing with your own illusions.

 

[Rabbuk]

I do everything that is recommended. So you are arguing with your own illusions.

Ok

 

[isufbcurt]

A late 20's guy I know who got it lost 20 lbs, was in the hospital for 5 days and now that he is home he is still using a portable breathing machine.

Meanwhile, he gave it to his wife who had no symptoms and gave it to his mom who was sick as a dog for 3 days then perfectly fine.

 

[Rabbuk]

A late 20's guy I know who got it lost 20 lbs, was in the hospital for 5 days and now that he is home he is still using a portable breathing machine.

A woman with no known health issues in her twenties literally had to get lung transplants

 

[SpokaneCY]

Was the state of NY in charge of those Navy hospital ships? Did they have the necessary medical supplies to treat any patients they would take on (all of which were vastly in shortage by this time)? What other facilities were offering to take infected patients in and had the ability to treat them?

Also, about that -- POTUS said they weren't used in NY because they weren't needed. Interesting messaging for a guy who simultaneously criticizes the Governor's handling of this, similar to how you are now. I wonder if more could've been done to help this at a higher level...

Again, looking for alternatives and/or "they should've done XYZ" here. 'Cuz right now, this just sounds like typical partisan spamming that's trying to be hidden as something logical.

I'm deleting my original post on hospital ships. Has zero to do with our athletes testing positive for virus.

 

[SpokaneCY]

A woman with no known health issues in her twenties literally had to get lung transplants

With well over a million cases and the associated deaths, I GUESS we could go through one by one and listen to 2nd and 3rd hand information. It's not like the Iowa being racist thread didn't get to 4,000 posts pretty quickly. Luckily I know of nobody that has tested positive let alone suffered the ill effects so I'll let you continue the list.

 

[CloneIce]

I understand the “my family and friends come first, everyone else do what you want” mentality in the abstract or in the context of a different issue. However, we are talking about a viral pandemic here. The best way to protect your family and friends (short of locking them away from society) lines up with the best way to reduce cases and deaths as a society - reduce transmission and spread.

I don’t see why people are treating these as separate issues. It’s a virus. Reducing, and ultimately stopping the spread is the best way to get back to normal life.

 

[MartyFine]

 

[Cytown12]

I should have known better. I couldn’t get past the first page of this thread without stupidIty and willful ignorance tearing their heads.

Seriously. COVID-19 has been a real thing for at least six months now, and some people still haven’t bothered take the time to learn actual facts?

Turns out it was just another virus like the rest of them.

 

[Cyclonepride]

A woman with no known health issues in her twenties literally had to get lung transplants

And the odds for such an occurrence are?

 

[Cytown12]

Agree. It's not funny, but it is cute.

And it seems to be the same ones that think they will be tailgating and watching football inside Jack Trice.... that also aren't doing anything now (wearing a mask and social distancing, etc) to try to make that even a possibility.

Wearing a mask doesn't really do much so why wear one.

 

[cycloneG]

Wearing a mask doesn't really do much so why wear one.

Turns out it was just another virus like the rest of them.

You seem fun.

 

[Cytown12]

115k dead in three months.

That's because if you died from a car accident

You seem fun.

You seem fun.

At least I don't live in fear of a virus that has 99% recovery rate

 

[CloneJD]

I don’t see why people are treating these as separate issues. It’s a virus. Reducing, and ultimately stopping the spread is the best way to get back to normal life.

You lose a bit of credibility if you suggest we are going to "stop" the spread of an endemic virus. You can slow transmission but Covid-19 is here to stay.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Wearing a mask doesn't really do much so why wear one.