Aiken

[GetAwesome]

One Prohm swing-and-miss to every Campbell commit is not a bad daily average this time of year.

At the current pace Campbell will have his 2022 class full by Thanksgiving, we relegate the basketball program to club ball, and reassign the scholarship count to resurrect the baseball team just in time for the Spring 2021 season.

 

[CTTB78]

The reason I think Prohm struggles in these quick recruiting spring sessions is that he doesn't have the charisma as some of these other coaches.
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Agree that it does play into some of these kids' decision, but not with Aiken. Otherwise he would have went with the ex-NBA Fab Five guy in Ann Arbor.

 

[rochclone]

I mean I could actually provide loads of coaching resumes where it took years in order to build a sustainable program, but we want success now. We demand it. And when we have success like two years ago, it's not good enough because we "should've been better".

To be fair to both sides Steve didn’t have the “luxury” of walking into a rebuild where the fans had seen the last coach fail. Rather he walked into the fairly rare Power 5 job where the team was set for two years (for a NCAA appearance) and you were expected to win right away.
It will be a much better situation for the next guy.

 

[Rabbuk]

To be fair to both sides Steve didn’t have the “luxury” of walking into a rebuild where the fans had seen the last coach fail. Rather he walked into the fairly rare Power 5 job where the team was set for two years (for a NCAA appearance) and you were expected to win right away.
It will be a much better situation for the next guy.

I'm not sure if this is a real post or heavily sarcastic

 

[CySmurf]

$2.5 million a year..I think the fans expect better than what they've been given so fan.

 

[IASTATE07]

$2.5 million a year..I think the fans expect better than what they've been given so fan.

Paid at the bottom of the Big 12 and towards the bottom of P5 coaches. I expect more of our program, but hate some bring up his salary.

 

[Aclone]

Agree that it does play into some of these kids' decision, but not with Aiken. Otherwise he would have went with the ex-NBA Fab Five guy in Ann Arbor.

Everyone knows what a huge difference it makes to get a kid to Ames and actually see ISU. Under the circumstances, that didn’t even happen. He even said he’d love to play for Howard. Instead, without being able to visit, looks to me like he just chose someplace familiar.

And lots of transfers are going to be doing that.

$2.5 million a year..I think the fans expect better than what they've been given so fan.

He’s 50th in the country in DI, and ninth in the conference. For that you expect more than two Big XII championships?

He had a bad year. There are lots of reasons for that—many of which people don’t even consider.

However, I do agree. If he has another bad year, he should be fired. I’m not so sure that he will, though.

Aiken would have been a nice “missing piece”.

 

[CTTB78]

Everyone knows what a huge difference it makes to get a kid to Ames and actually see ISU. Under the circumstances, that didn’t even happen. He even said he’d love to play for Howard. Instead, without being able to visit, looks to me like he just chose someplace familiar.......

Agree with this. My post commented on the suggestion that we are losing out to guys like Aiken because Steve doesn't have the charisma other coaches may have. Don't know anything about Willard, but my contention was Aiken didn't choose SH over FabFive Howard because of a charisma factor.

 

[CySmurf]

Paid at the bottom of the Big 12 and towards the bottom of P5 coaches. I expect more of our program, but hate some bring up his salary.

It's public knowledge. All I'm saying is that's a lot of money for what little results he's achieving.

 

[LLCoolCY]

Agree with this. My post commented on the suggestion that we are losing out to guys like Aiken because Steve doesn't have the charisma other coaches may have. Don't know anything about Willard, but my contention was Aiken didn't choose SH over FabFive Howard because of a charisma factor.

Aiken chose Seton Hall because he had a prior relationship to the staff, visited the school previously, SH is a likely tourney team and it was 5 miles from his hometown. ISU was always a long shot to land his commitment. That was before the extended NCAA visit restrictions making it more difficult to sell recruits on central Iowa.

 

[cyclonepower]

Aiken chose Seton Hall because he had a prior relationship to the staff, visited the school previously, SH is a likely tourney team and it was 5 miles from his hometown. ISU was always a long shot to land his commitment. That was before the extended NCAA visit restrictions making it more difficult to sell recruits on central Iowa.

Iowa state felt really good about its chances with Aiken up until the last couple of days which is surprising for all the reasons you listed

 

[IASTATE07]

It's public knowledge. All I'm saying is that's a lot of money for what little results he's achieving.

I'm aware it's public knowledge. Posters bring up his salary like we're overpaying him. If he was top 3 in the conference then by all means bring it up. But he's at the bottom in salary.

 

[WhoISthis]

Paid at the bottom of the Big 12 and towards the bottom of P5 coaches. I expect more of our program, but hate some bring up his salary.

I don’t get the salary argument from either side.

Would it change anyone’s minds on keeping Prohm if his contract stipulated he got $0 for losing 20 games? Great, so we saved money! On a similar thought, would we do much worse with a HC getting $500k?

 

[Rabbuk]

I'm aware it's public knowledge. Posters bring up his salary like we're overpaying him. If he was top 3 in the conference then by all means bring it up. But he's at the bottom in salary.

We are paying him like 8 times as much as he made at murray state.

 

[IASTATE07]

We are paying him like 8 times as much as he made at murray state.

What does that have to do with him coaching in the Big 12?

 

[Rabbuk]

What does that have to do with him coaching in the Big 12?

his value/experience is not commensurate with other big 12 coaches.

 

[Cat Stevens]

What does that have to do with him coaching in the Big 12?

you’re not hating him enough again

 

[IASTATE07]

his value/experience is not commensurate with other big 12 coaches.

Is that not reflected where he ranks in salary in conference?

 

[Macloney]

Insufferable fans in the middle of a global pandemic.

Obviously the ISU job is on par with UNC or ku, we deserve the best. Don't let facts or the history of the program tell you otherwise.

 

[WhoISthis]

Is that not reflected where he ranks in salary in conference?

Imo, no, but let’s see how we do next year. The 10th team in the nation is last in the Top 10, by rank, but still very good!

How is value determined? If we finish near last in the Big 12, we could get that level results, for a lot less.