I was hoping all of those sad sacks had pulled a George Bailey and done a Christmas day jump off a bridge into an icy river. Off a bridge without a Clarence.
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This is why Prohm must go........
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I was hoping all of those sad sacks had pulled a George Bailey and done a Christmas day jump off a bridge into an icy river. Off a bridge without a Clarence.
Even harsh Prohm critics (myself included) give him a pass on that season. We all knew what was coming, and the injuries only made it worse.
It's fine to be upset when you lose. I'm upset when we lose. I get mad at Coach Prohm AND the players when we lose, but some people just want to get mad at the coach. If that's how they want to cope, then that's fine. I'm sure Coach Prohm would be the first one to take the blame after any loss just like Matt Campbell would.
People want success to come instantly, but that's not how it usually works. It takes time. Look around college basketball and college football and take a look at any program and see how long it took for that coach to have success in their respective sport. Prohm has had success, but because it's not up to their standard, they diminish it. When we won the Big 12 tournament for the first time I can almost guarantee you that it was looked at as a major success. Now, winning the Big 12 tournament means absolutely nothing to some fans. Sweet 16 appearance? "Should've gone farther".
Some people don't give him a pass though.. Prohm went from winning the Big 12 Tournament and a close loss in the second round to Purdue, a rebuild year, and then won the Big 12 Tournament and lost in a close game to Ohio State.
Those games all sucked. As did getting housed by Drake Royces year, losing to that horrendous TTU team with Kane and Ejim, Clyburn and co. getting pounded by Iowa, and the UAB debacle.
Some performances under Prohm have been bad. No doubt. I don't think Prohm is going to reach the consistency Hoiberg did. I also think there's plenty of room between that and needing to be fired.
I was really hoping it would disappear and now I hate myself for posting but I don't want to read the first 70 plus pages...
I'm gonna just tell myself that the OP was suggesting "Prohm must go" to Applebee's for a Prohm-burger after a disappointing loss.
Semantics but Kane and Ejim didn't lose to TTU. The year after ISU did...lost at a bad TTU team and at bad KSU.
Kane and Ejim never had bad losses but were like 50/50 with how some of the wins occurred.
Not to mention that the adjustment Hoiberg made to come back vs. OU in 2015 was to basically allow his team to play straight streetball with no actual offense. I actually don't know how that that info came out...I think OU's players alluded to it.
I'd bet that gameday thread was a treat.
Prohm has already had a few memorable players, if not a few all-timers.
Two good ones right here, including maybe the biggest shot in school history...
Shayok should be/is up there with Royce and Kane for one-year wonders.
Tyrese is going to be one of our highest draft picks of all-time...
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Is Talen our first one-and-done guy, too?
Ugh, seeing Wesley Johnson just brings up horrible memories and reminds me of the beginning of the McDoormat era.
I really shouldn't add on more to this never-ending thread anymore than I already have, but so much this.
Look, it's one thing to be objectively and fairly critical; I think that's fine. I don't care how good Iowa is offensively, there is no excuse for losing to them by double digits on our own home floor. And yes, we need to do a better job of protecting Hilton period, especially in the Big 12 season. I can get behind those sentiments. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that a few of the very vocal critics of Prohm absolutely made up their mind to be against him from the very start; whether because they are in the Cult of Fred or because they wanted someone else in his place and have never accepted him. That's why you have certain posters proclaiming that a Sweet 16 season wasn't as good as a season in which we lost to UAB in the first round and why you have some posters who honestly seemed downright disappointed that we beat Texas Tech on the road last season.
I have no time or tolerance for that kind of b*llshit, and I don't feel bad for calling those posters out either.
What gets me more than that though is the insulting of my intelligence when you have posters saying that they gave him a "fair chance" when it's obvious they never did. Stop. Lying. There are very few things in this world that get me angrier than people who p!ss on my leg and then try to tell me it's raining.
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Justifiably so. A coach in his third year greatly contributed to that year’s success or failure.
He shouldn’t get a pass, it just may not be that informative to the job Prohm would do in the future. However, as we’ve seen, the challenge that type of roster construct represents isn’t limited to what he inherited from Hoiberg, so the ability to reload quickly is important. There will be many seasons in which most of your roster has turned over in 3 years. How many players this year were here in 2017-18? How many next year, assuming Haliburton leaves, were here going into 2018-19?
Whether we make the tournament this year will greatly define the Prohm narrative imo.
Hey!
I want my Internet points for fighting the good fight against the haters.
@Statefan10 is a heck of a voice of reason, too, though.
Wesley Johnson was listed in the highest draft picks link. I should have said "seeing his name" to avoid confusion since it doesn't show it when quoted.
Bump. Get this moron out of Ames now
