***Official WV postgame thread***

ISUChippewa

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Because Fred made sure he didn’t blow up. Same as Floyd did with Kenny Pratt, some players you have to manage differently. prohm has to figure out how to do that, he lost McKay somewhere in that season and he was never the same, same thing happening this year.

I would not give Fred a free pass or a whole lot of credit on how well he "managed" McKay, if the reports about practice being optional for him are accurate.
 

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I would not give Fred a free pass or a whole lot of credit on how well he "managed" McKay, if the reports about practice being optional for him are accurate.

Someone said it was due to his injury so there was at least some rationale there.

But I'm not sure what transpired for CSP to suspend McKay if there weren't some issues there.

If he was simply expected to put work in and didn't want to, that's on the player 100%.
 

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Because Fred made sure he didn’t blow up. Same as Floyd did with Kenny Pratt, some players you have to manage differently. prohm has to figure out how to do that, he lost McKay somewhere in that season and he was never the same, same thing happening this year.

There's nothing similar to McKay happening this year. That's made up.

Interesting enough, though, McKay didn't really get turned around until a player rather aggressively held him accountable.
 

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What are you talking about? Some of us avoided all post game commentary.
After the game, somebody commented mentioning something that happened in the locker room postgame last night. They also said they didn't want to say what it was until today, but that hasn't happened. No clue if the source on here has credible info, but that is what happened.

Edit: It wasn't a fanatic writer/personality, just a random poster FWIW
 

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24 hours later, I'm still tremendously disappointed and very sad. Read this entire thread, maybe just to feel the pain of so many CF fans. Last 2 1/2 weeks have been excruciating. I thought after losing to Baylor and TCU by a total of 7 points, beating OU by 17 seemed like, ok, we caught our breath, refocused, and are ready to go. Now we are witnessing a train wreck. (Not a dumpster fire, BTW. Too much ability for that.)

But I went to work today and life has gone on. I'll watch Saturday, cheer, hope Shayok can play, hope for the best.
 
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Doc

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If Prohm does such a good job recruiting, them follows it up with poor coaching and inability to handle the talent,
what is the point of good recruiting?

The point is we won 20 games instead of 10-15 if the recruiting was poor. Recruiting matters...a lot. I lived through too many McDermott years to dump a good recruiter this fast.
 

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I realize I’m way behind in this thread but I think the narrative on us being the most talented team in the B12 really started to develop before Lard and Wigginton were playing. Lard and Wigginton haven’t played up to expectations, but I think the thought was in people’s minds after Maui. I know it was in mine.

Between Wigginton and Lard taking minor steps forward rather than a big sophomore jump, and Babb being a shell of his former self, we aren’t really looking that talented anymore.

I also never thought we were the most talented, but rather the most skilled. Our lack of athletic talent and motor (it’s a talent!) has kind of reared it’s head. And we didn’t shoot as well as I hoped.
 
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The point is we won 20 games instead of 10-15 if the recruiting was poor. Recruiting matters...a lot. I lived through too many McDermott years to dump a good recruiter this fast.
The scary thing is McD recruited 5 NBA players in 4 seasons, which doesn’t include guys like Gilstrap and Scotty, or serviceable system guys like JVB and Lucca. In terms of recruiting, Dendy and Colvin were good gets. He also signed Ejim and Godfrey, and both were talented, although the latter couldn’t lay of the weed.

Add in inheriting good players in Jiri and Rashon, and that is a lot of talent to not win with.
 

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I also never thought we were the most talented, but rather the most skilled. Our lack of athletic talent and motor (it’s a talent!) has kind of reared it’s head. And we didn’t shoot as well as I hoped.

Sounds a lot like the consensus about the roster going into the season.
 

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