***Official WV postgame thread***
- Thread starter Cyclonepride
- Start date
No, in college bb, the "leader" is the coach. MSU: the "leader" is Izzo. Villanova: the "leader" is Wright. Duke: the "leader" is Coach K.
I see them losing the next 2 and dropping to an 8 seed. Then losing the 8/9 matchup as well at this point.
Wish I could get a job that depended on the judgement, focus and maturity of 18 - 21 year old kids for my success. 
My goodness. The last 5 games specifically we have been 10x more competitive than we were from 2006-2010. Please don't ever compare this era to that.
If you make the tourney at ISU your seat won't be warm that offseason. It just won't
Jesus. At least you’re consistent.
All coaches are the leaders of their programs or organizations. There is a hierarchy though. And it’s necessary for success. Coaches are around the players during practice and games. The other 20 hours a day they’re on their own, Someone has to lead away from the court too.
Now go back to criticizing jp for firing your dad 14 years ago.
His mission here is to make sure Fred is never held accountable for anything that happened that wasn’t 100% positive.
No. This is all on the current staff, and team.
That poster though spends all of his non anti prohm energy defending Fred for every single thing.
I was an undergraduate during the McD era. He took the best years of my life. Depending on how the offseason goes, the trend in the program could tilt that direction.
The worst thing about McD was he was constantly losing his best players and projected contributors for the next season one way or another. Guys would transfer, guys would "go pro" who clearly were not ready for it, and guys would just up and quit the team or even basketball entirely. They never had any continuity in the roster or the program culture, and while they notionally had talent (and did have some good players), they could never string it together to create a successful and resilient program in a strong conference and win consistently.
Losing seniors is fine. Losing guys at the back of the bench who had no chance to play is fine, assuming you are replacing them with upgrades. I know the roster had a stupid amount of turnover during Fred's tenure, but many of his transfers spent at least two years in Ames, and he still had some all-timer culture guys around (e.g., Melvin, Georges, Naz, Monté, Matt, etc.) who led the team and created expectations for the new guys and held it all together.
We already lose two starters to graduation. If a few of the other talented guys on the roster, and Wigginton, Horton-Tucker, and Lard are absolutely talented, leave or "go pro" just to get out of here even clearly prematurely departing, then that says all I really need to know. I accepted last year as a rebuild given the yawning gulf in recruiting the end of the Hoiberg era meant. If we need to rebuild again after this year, then I am not sure this is working.
Attended this game. First game in over 10 years.
Comments:
- I told my friends Huggies late ‘T’ in Ames was to set the refs up in this one. And boy oh boy. The refs were horrific. Phantom calls against us and no calls for Thuggins the other way. One thing clearly irked me: countless flagarent 3 second violations that weren’t called. Being near the free throw line it pulled us out too far opening them for rebounding lanes
- too many offensive rebounds allowed ... not good
- allowing first half looks at 3s were inexcusable
- we need players to take that open look. Countless were passed up
- lethargic in first half except Wiggins
- TH needs to be a scoring threat. Guarding 4 threats is now a strategy. Much easier.
- never seen prohm so pissed. Rightfully so. Two over and backs in the same sequence not called.
- Never saw a team with heads bowed so low at the end. Advice: penetrate and pull up 2s. Get those lane violations called. After a rotate look for player to block out.
ALWAYS WILL SUPPORT. Give it your best and have no regrets. Swagger back!!
Comments:
- I told my friends Huggies late ‘T’ in Ames was to set the refs up in this one. And boy oh boy. The refs were horrific. Phantom calls against us and no calls for Thuggins the other way. One thing clearly irked me: countless flagarent 3 second violations that weren’t called. Being near the free throw line it pulled us out too far opening them for rebounding lanes
- too many offensive rebounds allowed ... not good
- allowing first half looks at 3s were inexcusable
- we need players to take that open look. Countless were passed up
- lethargic in first half except Wiggins
- TH needs to be a scoring threat. Guarding 4 threats is now a strategy. Much easier.
- never seen prohm so pissed. Rightfully so. Two over and backs in the same sequence not called.
- Never saw a team with heads bowed so low at the end. Advice: penetrate and pull up 2s. Get those lane violations called. After a rotate look for player to block out.
ALWAYS WILL SUPPORT. Give it your best and have no regrets. Swagger back!!
Issue with having one and done types around is the foundation around them has to be solid enough, and that hasn't happened for ISU.
I'm uninfomed about their overall rosters and where most of their players are from, but it seems Tech and KSU have lots of players that have at least been there for a while and the result is real chemistry and consistency.
Might just be lightning in a bottle for those two coaches but it seems like a better approach than something that feels top heavy and easy to fall apart, and ISU is closer to them for situations then say, KU.
Is your tv on mute? The commentators mention it every single game. Jay Williams, Seth Greenberg, and pretty much anyone who has talked about the Big 12 title race has stated this.
What if I told you... Hilton Magic would shine it’s brightest after the darkest days?
What does this even mean? Huggins gets a T to set up the refs for a game...five weeks later? When the officials of both games were completely different? This is nonsensical.
