Jack Campbell

[Cyched]

First his methods are outdated. Evidence? Evidence is contrary. Damn. Time to move the goal posts.

He grinds them down through the year. Evidence? Iowa generally plays well at the end of the season. Damn. Time to move the goal posts.

But Iowa is bad in bowl games! You may have finally set them are the right spot. It isn't bowl prep. It isn't game planning. Its clearly S&C! Keep moving those goalposts.

Nevermind Iowa famously builds underrecruited players into good football players. Josie Jewell didn't put up big combine numbers!? Nevermind Iowa was his only offer out of HS and ended up a consensus AA. Nevermind Iowa puts a ton of players into the NFL and they credit the guy to a man. Ignore it all--Iowa doesn't show up for bowl games and that's evidence he's considered crappy and out if touch around the country.

All the BS on this board spewed anytime someone doesn't wear ISU blinders is pathetic. The perception that ISU fans are Kool aid drinkers is alive and well in this thread.

“Why does everyone think I’m a Hawk fan?”

 

[Clone83]

Hawk fans are objective commentators. Just ask them.

 

[Lexclone]

He wishes. Honestly I wonder if he's actually an ISU fan trying to make Hawkeye fans look dumb

This is one of the more creative assertions I have seen on CF in a long while. If that is his play, he’s doing a masterful job.

 

[omar34]

Now he's just another Hawkeye, lets move on. He probably was a hawk fan growing up. We'll fine better! Have faith in CMC!

 

[cygrads]

It's going to take much longer to turn the state's recruits than to turn the program around. This staff can and does get better recruits outside Iowa because those recruits don't have a natural bias against Iowa State. Move on to next recruit.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Definitely stinks losing a top in-state prospect but it's good to keep perspective.

I'm sure ISU will end up with a few other mid-ranked 3 star LBs.

 

[CyCloned]

Definitely stinks losing a top in-state prospect but it's good to keep perspective.

I'm sure ISU will end up with a few other mid-ranked 3 star LBs.

yes, it stinks that ISU couldn't get a highly rated in state guy, but the lifetime fan of the other team is pretty hard to overcome. Can't blame a kid for following his dreams. CMC has a plan B,C and D for this. ISU will be fine in the end.

 

[im4cyru]

All D1 programs in the state have to offer any in-state youngster projected to possess the talent to compete at that level. To not do so encourages criticisms from all quarters. There are usually many equal or better talented prospects to offer and accept commitments from; regardless of where they take residence.

Denison's Brandon Scherff, who chose Iowa over Iowa State, is oft mentioned as "opportunity lost" for ISU due to the contention that he had been a lifelong fan of the Cyclones. One has to admit Brandon enjoyed an outstanding college career, subsequently chosen high in the NFL draft. It's indisputable that he'd have been a tremendous asset to the Iowa State teams.

In his five years at Iowa, Scherff participated in three in-state rival games. In a twist of fate, following the conclusion of two of the three matchups, Brandon was forced to suffer watching the boys in the cardinal and gold claim the Cy-Hawk trophy.

 

[IcSyU]

In a twist of fate, following the conclusion of two of the three matchups, Brandon was forced to suffer watching the boys in the cardinal and gold claim the Cy-Hawk trophy.

Who gives a ****? I'm guessing when he was playing 13 games each year he didn't mind.

If you're using the CyHawk game as a measurement of anything it means your team sucks.

 

[DrClone]

I just worry about Twins. MC really wanted this guy. So to not only lose him to the bad guys, but to lose him to the bad guys specifically because of Doyle... of course it hurts.

I'm sure MC will be fine.

 

[im4cyru]

Who gives a ****? I'm guessing when he was playing 13 games each year he didn't mind.

If you're using the CyHawk game as a measurement of anything it means your team sucks.

Go Fish

 

[NEICyFan]

“Why does everyone think I’m a Hawk fan?”

Because certain people have zero objectivity and lose their minds at the mere mention of the school to the east.

I say his methods are outdated because Iowa was a good program in the 2000s and now has what, one top 25 finish in the last decade? Maybe it's not him and maybe it's recruiting or Ferentz I don't know. I could see how you could argue it's not his fault but I'm not just throwing stuff against the wall there

Iowa generally plays well at the end of the season? Have you been living under a rock for a decade Iowa gets it's doors blown off the last game of the season every year

If it's true they get ground down wouldn't you see it over the last several games and not just in the last game? Nevermind that it's played 4-6 weeks after the other games and players get a ton of time off during that time? Heck, even at that they won 3 of their last 4 in 2016 and their last 2 in 2017, and dominated the 2nd half of their bowl game. Doesn't seem like evidence supports your theory.

 

[CloneGuy8]

All D1 programs in the state have to offer any in-state youngster projected to possess the talent to compete at that level. To not do so encourages criticisms from all quarters. There are usually many equal or better talented prospects to offer and accept commitments from; regardless of where they take residence.

Denison's Brandon Scherff, who chose Iowa over Iowa State, is oft mentioned as "opportunity lost" for ISU due to the contention that he had been a lifelong fan of the Cyclones. One has to admit Brandon enjoyed an outstanding college career, subsequently chosen high in the NFL draft. It's indisputable that he'd have been a tremendous asset to the Iowa State teams.

In his five years at Iowa, Scherff participated in three in-state rival games. In a twist of fate, following the conclusion of two of the three matchups, Brandon was forced to suffer watching the boys in the cardinal and gold claim the Cy-Hawk trophy.

Hasn't it been said (maybe by Chris) that we didn't offer him? Not sure if it was Chiz or Rhoads at the time, but they wanted to go after guys from Texas and Florida. So glad Campbell is recruiting Iowa more than the previous staffs were

 

[im4cyru]

Hasn't it been said (maybe by Chris) that we didn't offer him? Not sure if it was Chiz or Rhoads at the time, but they wanted to go after guys from Texas and Florida. So glad Campbell is recruiting Iowa more than the previous staffs were

I've heard they botched his recruitment too.

 

[CyTwins]

Because certain people have zero objectivity and lose their minds at the mere mention of the school to the east.



If it's true they get ground down wouldn't you see it over the last several games and not just in the last game? Nevermind that it's played 4-6 weeks after the other games and players get a ton of time off during that time? Heck, even at that they won 3 of their last 4 in 2016 and their last 2 in 2017, and dominated the 2nd half of their bowl game. Doesn't seem like evidence supports your theory.

Iowa sucks at the end of the season and has for the last decade. That's a fact. I don't know why you're defending against facts about a team you apparently don't even like

 

[amishclone]

He doesn’t have any except for the bowl record which is a huge reach. He just really hates Iowa.

Sounds like a commendable trait

 

[Cyched]

Because certain people have zero objectivity and lose their minds at the mere mention of the school to the east.

And certain people can’t tell when they’re being trolled.

 

[Cyforce]

Too many on both sides of the fence find vindication from the decisions of 17 y/o kids. Please close thread.

 

[BoxsterCy]

First his methods are outdated. Evidence? Evidence is contrary. Damn. Time to move the goal posts.

He grinds them down through the year. Evidence? Iowa generally plays well at the end of the season. Damn. Time to move the goal posts.

But Iowa is bad in bowl games! You may have finally set them are the right spot. It isn't bowl prep. It isn't game planning. Its clearly S&C! Keep moving those goalposts.

Nevermind Iowa famously builds underrecruited players into good football players. Josie Jewell didn't put up big combine numbers!? Nevermind Iowa was his only offer out of HS and ended up a consensus AA. Nevermind Iowa puts a ton of players into the NFL and they credit the guy to a man. Ignore it all--Iowa doesn't show up for bowl games and that's evidence he's considered crappy and out if touch around the country.

All the BS on this board spewed anytime someone doesn't wear ISU blinders is pathetic. The perception that ISU fans are Kool aid drinkers is alive and well in this thread.

Well, that would be the perspective of a NE Iowa Hawk fan. This isn't the right board for knob slobbering Iowa football, you should post your admiration on one of the Hawk boards.

 

[CyTwins]

Well, that would be the perspective of a NE Iowa Hawk fan. This isn't the right board for knob slobbering Iowa football, you should post your admiration on one of the Hawk boards.

He's not even making sense. Iowa was a good program in the 2000s and have only had one top 25 finish since and routinely gets embarrassed in bowl games while looking physically out matched. I'm not sure how an ISU can defend a poor S&C coach like Doyle against those results