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Any other Black Panther thoughts out there?? I'd love to hear them. I posted my review above and can't wait to see it again eventually. I really think this will be a movie I like even more the second time around. The movie is absolutely killing it at the box office, which I'm super happy for. Hard to believe that next up is now Avengers: Infinity War. It is finally almost here!!!!!!
 
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Triggermv said:
Any other Black Panther thoughts out there?? I'd love to hear them. I posted my review above and can't wait to see it again eventually. I really think this will be a movie I like even more the second time around. The movie is absolutely killing it at the box office, which I'm super happy for. Hard to believe that next up is now Avengers: Infinity War. It is finally almost here!!!!!!
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I put my review in the Black Panther thread (so I won't repeat it all here) but I was very entertained. I liked Killmonger for the most part, but he went a little too Demolition-Man-Wesley-Snipes for me at times. The tech was innovative and done very well. Shuri and Okoye were great characters and probably my favorites. The brother-sister relationship with Shuri and T'Challa felt effortless and provided the movie with some decent laughs.

I wasn't familiar with the story-line ahead of time. It was a bit formulaic, but it checked all of the boxes for me and kept me entertained. I like the morality portrayed by T-Challa and look forward to seeing how big of a role he'll play in the upcoming Infinity War.

This feels like a movie I will like better with a second viewing.
 
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Better late than never:

I finally saw Thor: Ragnarok for the first time yesterday. I really enjoyed it. Probably my favorite of the Thor series, but not good enough for me to regret not seeing it in theaters. I think this movie might be in my rotation of most re-watched MCU movies (joining Ant-Man & GotG 1). The pacing was great, as was the humor. The ending is kind of a mess once all the characters finally meet for the final battle, and really the only character that I thought was well-developed was The Hulk. Even Tom Hiddleston's Loki seemed a bit more subdued than how he was previously portrayed in the MCU, but you can tell that everyone had fun making this movie - surprisingly even Idris Elba (Heimdall), looked like he enjoyed it and he has been very vocal in the past for his displeasure during production of the first Thor film. I hope Taika Waititi can come back to the MCU, although I don't know if there is a franchise outside of Thor that would fit his directing-style. This film is in the upper-half of my personal MCU rankings, but I'll hold-off until this Fall to re-rank the MCU so I can include Black Panther, Infinity War, and Ant-Man & The Wasp.
 
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I put my review in the Black Panther thread (so I won't repeat it all here) but I was very entertained. I liked Killmonger for the most part, but he went a little too Demolition-Man-Wesley-Snipes for me at times. The tech was innovative and done very well. Shuri and Okoye were great characters and probably my favorites. The brother-sister relationship with Shuri and T'Challa felt effortless and provided the movie with some decent laughs.

I wasn't familiar with the story-line ahead of time. It was a bit formulaic, but it checked all of the boxes for me and kept me entertained. I like the morality portrayed by T-Challa and look forward to seeing how big of a role he'll play in the upcoming Infinity War.

This feels like a movie I will like better with a second viewing.
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I've heard it's big.
 
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After posting my full-out Black Panther review on here, I figured it was about time I updated it into my rankings. Like I've hinted at before, this is a movie I'm guessing will climb the rankings over time and after subsequent viewings. We'll see. Spider-Man: Homecoming climbed some over time.

  1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – Thought this movie had the best drama and best writing and story line of all the movies. Its action sequences were probably only second to Civil War as well.
  2. Marvel’s The Avengers – Iconic way to pull everything together with the best villain in the MCU. The final battle was so epic and unlike anything we had ever seen up until that point.
  3. Captain America: Civil War - Most fun and one of the funniest movies on the list. Also produced the best action sequences, had some of the best character moments, and showcased the best balancing act of so many characters. Biggest downfall was having a very good, but not great story line, which kept it from topping my list.
  4. Iron Man – Epic way to start the Universe with an unbelievable star for a headliner. Never got into the Iron Monger villain though.
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy – Best space epic since the original Star Wars movies. Also was probably the funniest movie of the MCU so far.
  6. Marvel's The Punisher: Season 1 - Most complete Marvel TV series so far with great pacing, great story, superb casting, and amazing acting. Ben Barnes as Billy Russo is now not only one of my favorite actors, but he is up there as one of the best Marvel villains. Very stand-alone series, but I wish there were a few more crossovers.
  7. Marvel's Daredevil: Season 2 - The introduction of Jon Bernthal's Punisher in Season 2 was what truly made this season great and better than Season 2. Had a few pacing issues, but overall, the series only improved all the characters within it from Season 1, but I'm still so-so on all the Electra stuff. Still needs a few more crossovers, but had a few.
  8. Marvel’s Daredevil: Season 1 – Loved the street-level more-adult-themed tone of this show. Also contains probably the second best villain in the MCU. Being on Netflix is a great way to un-cuff all the normal problems of making a TV show for network viewing.
  9. Ant-Man - Had super-low expectations, but walked away pleasantly surprised. Yet another weak villain, but contained some great comedy with some great actors. Paul Rudd won me over when I once was really skeptical of him.
  10. Captain America: The First Avenger – Epic first-half of the movie with Cap’s origin story, but believe it or not, I found Red Skull a little underdeveloped. Loved the WWII time period aspect of this one.
  11. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Amazing casting on this movie throughout, with Tom Holland being the best Spider-Man yet. Also featured one of the greatest villains in the MCU yet with Michael Keaton, with one of the best scenes and best twists. Movie just lacked the music score and emotional weight of some of its predecessors.
  12. Black Panther - Very good movie with great characters, superb character development, a good story arc, and a top 3 Marvel villain. However, its biggest downfall is some very poor action and CGI work.
  13. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 4 - Best season of AOS so far with a very good two-part story line. Ghost Rider was amazing movie quality all around (casting, acting, visuals, story) and fit perfectly into the story, as well as tying the series to the Doctor Strange multi-verse/mystical/inter-dimensional world. Tons of fun with a lot of great emotion.
  14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Huge on the laughs, fun and heart, but a little mediocre on the story and substance. Also, went a little overboard at times where things got a bit too campy. Characters were probably more fun than story.
  15. Marvel's Jessica Jones - Series filled with great actors, great drama, good diversity to what we are used to, and one of the best villains in the MCU (Kilgrave). Series suffered most from having probably 3-4 too many episodes, poor pacing, and not enough ties to the overall MCU.
  16. Iron Man 2 – Many will mock me, but I actually really enjoyed this movie and actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man 3. Make fun of me all you want, but I didn’t think Whiplash was that bad. I think this movie gets unfairly criticized.
  17. Doctor Strange - This was a fairly Marvel formulaic origin story with some ground-breaking visual effects, a mediocre villain, an innovative ending, and some great characters. However, its biggest problem for me is that it was probably just a bit too out there on the magic side to fully be my cup of tea, which is okay. I still enjoyed it.
  18. Avengers: Age of Ultron – Fun movie, but suffered from too much CGI action, too many characters, and too many storylines.
  19. Iron Man 3 – Don’t know what it is, but I just never really got into this one, and it probably had something to do with the big Mandarin villain twist towards the end. Also never really liked Killian either. Again, I surprisingly like Iron Man 2 better
  20. Thor– Don’t know what it is, but I just never got into this storyline or villains as much as the others. However, it is growing on me over time and I now like this more than Thor: The Dark World
  21. Thor: Ragnarok - I appreciate them trying to go in a creative new direction on this movie, but it ultimately felt too much like a quirky improv comedy (how he shot it) to me. Went a little too heavy on the comedy, which ultimately offset and mitigated the substance, scale, and weight of the movie. Hela was great villain though.
  22. Marvel's Luke Cage: Season 1 - Loved the music angle, loved Cottonmouth as the villain, loved the first 4 episodes. However, this was another Netflix series that really lost its way somewhere in the middle, and I really didn't care for any of the Diamondback stuff. Still enjoyed it, but definitely the worst Netflix series yet.
  23. Thor: The Dark World – Criticize me if you will, but I actually liked this movie more than probably most, but after re-watching it recently, it did fall some in my rankings. I now have the origin Thor above it.
  24. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 2 – Liked the less cheese and more serious tone than the first season. Also, loved the Inhuman’s storyline. Used to hate Skye, but now don’t mind her.
  25. Marvel’s Agent Carter – Loved the period timepiece aspect of this. Great show with good movie tie-ins.
  26. The Incredible Hulk – Good movie, but not great. Never was into Norton for the role or the look they gave theHulk, so I was super glad when the switch was made and they remade the Hulk's appearance.
  27. Marvel's Runways: Season 1 - Had a good tone as well as some good character work throughout. However, there was very little action and what action we got was really lackluster. Also, its biggest problem was that it didn't exactly stick the landing at the end. This was a decent series overall, but not great by any means.
  28. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 1 – Struggled hardcore in the first half-dozen episodes, but then finally picked up when Winter Soldier story line set in and the cheese started to fade. Overall, ended up really enjoying this.
  29. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 3 - Was VERY up and down throughout. There was times I really liked what they were doing, whereas other times where I really did not like what they were doing. Overall, the series is getting a little tired, too many forced fistfights, and still too high on the cheese factor. Still fun at times though.
  30. Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1: Started out alright including a great hallway fight scene earlier on, but then everything fell apart from there in the back half of the season, mostly dragged down by Iron Fist being Iron Fist, poor storytelling, and really poor dialogue. This series was a big let-down for me.
  31. Marvel's Agent Carter: Season 2 - Great actors and characters combined with a poor stand-alone story, which lacked substance and true stakes to the MCU
  32. Marvel's Iron Fist: Season 1 - A combination of terrible casting/acting from Danny Rand, terrible boring story, poor fight sequences, and too low a budget resulted in Marvel's first major dud for a TV show. At least the back half of the season was much better than the front half.
  33. Marvel's Inhumans - Garbage TV show all around. Bad acting, costumes, sets, directing, characterizations, special effects, and storytelling. This TV show was intentionally made fast and on the cheap as a money-grab and it totally shows through.
 
https://screenrant.com/chandler-riggs-auditioned-spider-man-han-solo/

Looks like Chandler Riggs of The Walking Dead auditioned for both Spider-Man and Han Solo. Lets just say I'm SUPER GLAD he did not get them. Chandler Riggs may be #1 on my most annoying-terrible acting kid actors of all time. I've never been able to stand the kid. I've been hoping he dies since Season 1 of The Walking Dead.
 
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https://screenrant.com/chandler-riggs-auditioned-spider-man-han-solo/

Looks like Chandler Riggs of The Walking Dead auditioned for both Spider-Man and Han Solo. Lets just say I'm SUPER GLAD he did not get them. Chandler Riggs may be #1 on my most annoying-terrible acting kid actors of all time. I've never been able to stand the kid. I've been hoping he dies since Season 1 of The Walking Dead.
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How do you really feel about the kid? Sheesh. I don't think he's a great actor either, but some of that has to do with the writing for The Walking Dead, which has been on a steady decline for a while.
 
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Triggermv said:
https://screenrant.com/chandler-riggs-auditioned-spider-man-han-solo/

Looks like Chandler Riggs of The Walking Dead auditioned for both Spider-Man and Han Solo. Lets just say I'm SUPER GLAD he did not get them. Chandler Riggs may be #1 on my most annoying-terrible acting kid actors of all time. I've never been able to stand the kid. I've been hoping he dies since Season 1 of The Walking Dead.
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I'm assuming you mean the character dies, not the actual actor right? o_O
 
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NOT MCU related, but I do see that the second half of Season 1 of "The Tick" is now available on Amazon streaming. Myself, I'm looking forward to checking it out. I really loved watching the first half of the season.
 
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It's looking like Agents of Shield will end after 5 seasons on ABC.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/agents-of-shields-fifth-season-finale-is-being-written-1823369829

My guess is that we could see a continuation or spin-off of AoS on the new Disney streaming service.
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It doesn't say anything is final, but rather that the writers are writing out the last episodes as if it may or may not be the last season. With that said, I'd be SUPER said to see AOS go as it has mostly gotten better and better as time has gone on. While I haven't watched any of this season yet, I thought last season was awesome and one of my favorite things in the MCU (see my rankings). How they handled Ghost Rider was fantastic. In fact, I wish there was a way to cross him over into the movies.
 
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It's looking like Agents of Shield will end after 5 seasons on ABC.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/agents-of-shields-fifth-season-finale-is-being-written-1823369829

My guess is that we could see a continuation or spin-off of AoS on the new Disney streaming service.
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James Gunn revealed that there is a Guardians of the Galaxy "Awesome Mix Vol 0" which he used on set while filming the Boot of Jemiah bar scene on Nowhere. Here is the 10-track list:

1. Never Wanted to Dance by Mindless Self Indulgence

2. Party Hard by Andrew W.K.

3. The Way It Was featuring Bionik by Aceyalone and Bionik

4. I Like It, I Love It by Lyrics Born

5. Let’s Dance to Joy Division by The Wombats

6. Start Wearing Purple by Gogol Bordello

7. Ben Vereen by Pigeon John

8. Teenagers by My Chemical Romance

9. Black List featuring Juskwan by Lyrikill

10. Timebomb by Old 97s

https://io9.gizmodo.com/listen-to-james-gunns-secret-guardians-awesome-mix-vol-1823397943
 
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Triggermv said:
After posting my full-out Black Panther review on here, I figured it was about time I updated it into my rankings. Like I've hinted at before, this is a movie I'm guessing will climb the rankings over time and after subsequent viewings. We'll see. Spider-Man: Homecoming climbed some over time.

  1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – Thought this movie had the best drama and best writing and story line of all the movies. Its action sequences were probably only second to Civil War as well.
  2. Marvel’s The Avengers – Iconic way to pull everything together with the best villain in the MCU. The final battle was so epic and unlike anything we had ever seen up until that point.
  3. Captain America: Civil War - Most fun and one of the funniest movies on the list. Also produced the best action sequences, had some of the best character moments, and showcased the best balancing act of so many characters. Biggest downfall was having a very good, but not great story line, which kept it from topping my list.
  4. Iron Man – Epic way to start the Universe with an unbelievable star for a headliner. Never got into the Iron Monger villain though.
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy – Best space epic since the original Star Wars movies. Also was probably the funniest movie of the MCU so far.
  6. Marvel's The Punisher: Season 1 - Most complete Marvel TV series so far with great pacing, great story, superb casting, and amazing acting. Ben Barnes as Billy Russo is now not only one of my favorite actors, but he is up there as one of the best Marvel villains. Very stand-alone series, but I wish there were a few more crossovers.
  7. Marvel's Daredevil: Season 2 - The introduction of Jon Bernthal's Punisher in Season 2 was what truly made this season great and better than Season 2. Had a few pacing issues, but overall, the series only improved all the characters within it from Season 1, but I'm still so-so on all the Electra stuff. Still needs a few more crossovers, but had a few.
  8. Marvel’s Daredevil: Season 1 – Loved the street-level more-adult-themed tone of this show. Also contains probably the second best villain in the MCU. Being on Netflix is a great way to un-cuff all the normal problems of making a TV show for network viewing.
  9. Ant-Man - Had super-low expectations, but walked away pleasantly surprised. Yet another weak villain, but contained some great comedy with some great actors. Paul Rudd won me over when I once was really skeptical of him.
  10. Captain America: The First Avenger – Epic first-half of the movie with Cap’s origin story, but believe it or not, I found Red Skull a little underdeveloped. Loved the WWII time period aspect of this one.
  11. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Amazing casting on this movie throughout, with Tom Holland being the best Spider-Man yet. Also featured one of the greatest villains in the MCU yet with Michael Keaton, with one of the best scenes and best twists. Movie just lacked the music score and emotional weight of some of its predecessors.
  12. Black Panther - Very good movie with great characters, superb character development, a good story arc, and a top 3 Marvel villain. However, its biggest downfall is some very poor action and CGI work.
  13. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 4 - Best season of AOS so far with a very good two-part story line. Ghost Rider was amazing movie quality all around (casting, acting, visuals, story) and fit perfectly into the story, as well as tying the series to the Doctor Strange multi-verse/mystical/inter-dimensional world. Tons of fun with a lot of great emotion.
  14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Huge on the laughs, fun and heart, but a little mediocre on the story and substance. Also, went a little overboard at times where things got a bit too campy. Characters were probably more fun than story.
  15. Marvel's Jessica Jones - Series filled with great actors, great drama, good diversity to what we are used to, and one of the best villains in the MCU (Kilgrave). Series suffered most from having probably 3-4 too many episodes, poor pacing, and not enough ties to the overall MCU.
  16. Iron Man 2 – Many will mock me, but I actually really enjoyed this movie and actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man 3. Make fun of me all you want, but I didn’t think Whiplash was that bad. I think this movie gets unfairly criticized.
  17. Doctor Strange - This was a fairly Marvel formulaic origin story with some ground-breaking visual effects, a mediocre villain, an innovative ending, and some great characters. However, its biggest problem for me is that it was probably just a bit too out there on the magic side to fully be my cup of tea, which is okay. I still enjoyed it.
  18. Avengers: Age of Ultron – Fun movie, but suffered from too much CGI action, too many characters, and too many storylines.
  19. Iron Man 3 – Don’t know what it is, but I just never really got into this one, and it probably had something to do with the big Mandarin villain twist towards the end. Also never really liked Killian either. Again, I surprisingly like Iron Man 2 better
  20. Thor– Don’t know what it is, but I just never got into this storyline or villains as much as the others. However, it is growing on me over time and I now like this more than Thor: The Dark World
  21. Thor: Ragnarok - I appreciate them trying to go in a creative new direction on this movie, but it ultimately felt too much like a quirky improv comedy (how he shot it) to me. Went a little too heavy on the comedy, which ultimately offset and mitigated the substance, scale, and weight of the movie. Hela was great villain though.
  22. Marvel's Luke Cage: Season 1 - Loved the music angle, loved Cottonmouth as the villain, loved the first 4 episodes. However, this was another Netflix series that really lost its way somewhere in the middle, and I really didn't care for any of the Diamondback stuff. Still enjoyed it, but definitely the worst Netflix series yet.
  23. Thor: The Dark World – Criticize me if you will, but I actually liked this movie more than probably most, but after re-watching it recently, it did fall some in my rankings. I now have the origin Thor above it.
  24. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 2 – Liked the less cheese and more serious tone than the first season. Also, loved the Inhuman’s storyline. Used to hate Skye, but now don’t mind her.
  25. Marvel’s Agent Carter – Loved the period timepiece aspect of this. Great show with good movie tie-ins.
  26. The Incredible Hulk – Good movie, but not great. Never was into Norton for the role or the look they gave theHulk, so I was super glad when the switch was made and they remade the Hulk's appearance.
  27. Marvel's Runways: Season 1 - Had a good tone as well as some good character work throughout. However, there was very little action and what action we got was really lackluster. Also, its biggest problem was that it didn't exactly stick the landing at the end. This was a decent series overall, but not great by any means.
  28. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 1 – Struggled hardcore in the first half-dozen episodes, but then finally picked up when Winter Soldier story line set in and the cheese started to fade. Overall, ended up really enjoying this.
  29. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 3 - Was VERY up and down throughout. There was times I really liked what they were doing, whereas other times where I really did not like what they were doing. Overall, the series is getting a little tired, too many forced fistfights, and still too high on the cheese factor. Still fun at times though.
  30. Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1: Started out alright including a great hallway fight scene earlier on, but then everything fell apart from there in the back half of the season, mostly dragged down by Iron Fist being Iron Fist, poor storytelling, and really poor dialogue. This series was a big let-down for me.
  31. Marvel's Agent Carter: Season 2 - Great actors and characters combined with a poor stand-alone story, which lacked substance and true stakes to the MCU
  32. Marvel's Iron Fist: Season 1 - A combination of terrible casting/acting from Danny Rand, terrible boring story, poor fight sequences, and too low a budget resulted in Marvel's first major dud for a TV show. At least the back half of the season was much better than the front half.
  33. Marvel's Inhumans - Garbage TV show all around. Bad acting, costumes, sets, directing, characterizations, special effects, and storytelling. This TV show was intentionally made fast and on the cheap as a money-grab and it totally shows through.
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Great list, thanks. What are your thoughts on Legion?
 
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