Opinions on that INT
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I think that was really clear it was a td. Really not a hard call to make off of video review. I guess why waste so much time with it and make games last over 4 hours if you can’t get it right.
I'll rephrase. You can't control the with one hand against an opponen
I think you will find with serious study of a rule book in any sport that there is no such things as synonymous words. Simultaneous possession is a very narrowly defined term, and clearly not all of the elements required for it to happen occurred on this play. Dual possession is a term created in this conversation thread meaning whatever the individual poster wants it to mean so long as Iowa state would have won that football game.
I think you will find with serious study of a rule book in any sport that there is no such things as synonymous words. Simultaneous possession is a very narrowly defined term, and clearly not all of the elements required for it to happen occurred on this play. Dual possession is a term created in this conversation thread meaning whatever the individual poster wants it to mean so long as Iowa state would have won that football game.
LOL, you know you've lost the argument when you're creating your own rules.
If you can pin the ball against an opponent with two hands, why can't you pin it with one hand? Also might want to watch that Stanford clip again. He completes the process of the catch with one hand pinning the ball. The other one falls off.
Here is your "narrowly defined" simultaneous catch:
Simultaneous Catch or Recovery ARTICLE 4. A simultaneous catch or recovery is a catch or recovery in which there is joint possession of a live ball by opposing players inbounds (A.R. 7-3-6-I-II).
Simultaneous Catch or Recovery ARTICLE 4. A simultaneous catch or recovery is a catch or recovery in which there is joint possession of a live ball by opposing players inbounds (A.R. 7-3-6-I-II).
Complete Pass ARTICLE 6. Any forward pass is complete when caught by a player of the passing team who is inbounds, and the ball continues in play unless completed in the opponent’s end zone or the pass has been caught simultaneously by opposing players. If a forward pass is caught simultaneously by opposing players inbounds, the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing team
He's arguing semantics. You only do that when you're flat out wrong and you're desperate to do anything other than admit that you're wrong but want to be "right".
Iowa State owns him, and it’s fun to watch. Can’t wait to watch him lose it more and more as CMC is here.
So I decided to venture on over to the Okie Lite board. This fan base has no clue what they are looking at. Here are a few of my favorites:
Darth RynoTerritorial Marshal
Another good shot of both of Green's hands on the ball, up against his chest.
Runs DeepCowboy
My question when I saw the interception was, why was it not offensive pass interference? It appeared the ISU receiver was going over Green to get the ball. Green had great position on the play
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Bottom line, it was not a robbery. The call wasn’t even close. Green had both hands on the ball.
Try having a field goal that was good taken away from you and costing you a trip to the national championship to play an terrible LSU offense that was very beatable. ISU doesn’t know what getting their heart ripped out feels like.
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Runs DeepCowboy
My question when I saw the interception was, why was it not offensive pass interference? It appeared the ISU receiver was going over Green to get the ball. Green had great position on the play
cowboyethics344Federal Marshal
Bottom line, it was not a robbery. The call wasn’t even close. Green had both hands on the ball.
Try having a field goal that was good taken away from you and costing you a trip to the national championship to play an terrible LSU offense that was very beatable. ISU doesn’t know what getting their heart ripped out feels like.
I keep wondering why this wasn't the angle being shown on TV. They showed it ONCE and that's it.
So I decided to venture on over to the Okie Lite board. This fan base has no clue what they are looking at. Here are a few of my favorites:
Darth RynoTerritorial Marshal
Another good shot of both of Green's hands on the ball, up against his chest.
Runs DeepCowboy
My question when I saw the interception was, why was it not offensive pass interference? It appeared the ISU receiver was going over Green to get the ball. Green had great position on the play
cowboyethics344Federal Marshal
Bottom line, it was not a robbery. The call wasn’t even close. Green had both hands on the ball.
Try having a field goal that was good taken away from you and costing you a trip to the national championship to play an terrible LSU offense that was very beatable. ISU doesn’t know what getting their heart ripped out feels like.
That shot is the most convincing argument for OSU, but we know from watching the video that that left hand goes flailing because Murdock has control.
OK I swear I'm done analyzing this.
JFC, that’s a TD. The OU Lite defender’s hand is moving as though he’s giving Murdock’s arm a massage. It’s a travesty that if Murdock hadn’t made a great play that the pass is without question and incompletion.
Seriously, those red dirt hayseeds are posting single frame stillshots? I assume it’s because TV service hasn’t yet reached the outback of Oklahoma. Yeah, well if that case Ryen caught the ball on our last drive against WVU.
Bottom line, the Big 12, when given the opportunity, chose to err on the side of the team with just 2 overall losses for fear that a three loss team in the championship game could jeopardize a spot in the national championship playoffs. If it comes down to it, look for the same choice next week when OU plays WV. They want OU-TCU in the championship game. Had ISU won out that could not happen. Should one of those two falter down the stretch, then OSU is the best alternative for the conference.
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Time to move on. Nothing to be gained by stewing over this and we have all seen ISU screw jobs before.
So I decided to venture on over to the Okie Lite board. This fan base has no clue what they are looking at. Here are a few of my favorites:
Darth RynoTerritorial Marshal
Another good shot of both of Green's hands on the ball, up against his chest.
Runs DeepCowboy
My question when I saw the interception was, why was it not offensive pass interference? It appeared the ISU receiver was going over Green to get the ball. Green had great position on the play
cowboyethics344Federal Marshal
Bottom line, it was not a robbery. The call wasn’t even close. Green had both hands on the ball.
Try having a field goal that was good taken away from you and costing you a trip to the national championship to play an terrible LSU offense that was very beatable. ISU doesn’t know what getting their heart ripped out feels like.
What people need to realize with the pic above.... see those "red fingers" wrapped around the point of the ball nearest the OSU players head.... those are Murdock's.
As I've said... of all the "skin" that is touching the football, Murdock has by far the majority of it, so how can you say OSU had possession?
On the bright side, now that ISU has been eliminated from championship consideration, we should be the beneficiaries of Big 12 corruption the next 2 weeks - considering ISU is OU's only loss, they now have to make that loss look as good as possible, amirite?
Seems like I formation lanning and Montgomery option play would be strongNah, that was a season where ISU was expected to be good, played very few good teams and lost to marginal/bad teams.
I suppose Texas isn't exactly great, but the losses so far are to good-decent teams and ISU wasn't expected to do much.
It would feel more like 2005 if they go down to Waco and get punked next weekend, which may happen. Winning is infectious like it was in October and so is losing like it's been for most of ISU's history.
This INT/weird call doesn't even exist with a better throw, or better yet, a call that maximizes ISU's strengths like many tall receivers in space, or like I've said elsewhere, if ISU doesn't give up huge plays and 49 (47?) points.
