Park looks a lot like your (you) avatar....
The fat lady isn't singing yet...
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Wow, really went in a a lot of directions in this post! let me try and break this down quick and easy!
1) PAC12 Network is a terrible product and has low demand both nationally and on the west coast, which is why its not very profitable.
2) UT and Texas do not change that just by showing up and the conference still deals with late night broadcasts in the, Midwest, and East Coast.
3) Where the F* are you getting the idea that UT and Stanford would merge? This is insane!
4) TX and CA impact on the future of the US seems a bit irrelevant in relation to conference realignment (though scholastic standards are certainly a part of conference affiliation if that is what your point was).
5) Conference realignment is driven by football and profit, not the innovation of states.
6) UT does not benefit anymore from the PAC12 than they do currently in the BigXII
7) WTF did that article have to do with anything!
ok im good on this... this thread was supposed to be about a fat lady singing or something!
What if they do own their network. Whoever owns it is going to lose money.
People have to watch the network for any of this to matter. Texas has more than most any school in the country yet they are a .500 team in football the last few years. SEC football is so much better than PAC 12 football.
But the SEC schools on the most part value football more than academics.
You must understand how much Alabama hates UT. Even with the 2009 game and their recent success Bama's previous winless streak against the Longhorns has made UT public enemy number 1 in the SEC
Not to mention there is a belief that UT turned down the SEC in the late 80's because UT thought they were too good for the SEC.
Too much bad blood in the conference.
This is not even mentioning the Piggies, Aggy, Miss State, LSU and Mizzou.
Because conferences are groups of universities who play football not football teams who teach their players in their spare time.
That UT doesn't want the SEC
The SEC doesn't want UT.
If you would like I can show you an article I have written entitled the Myth of SEC Football.
What makes you think the PAC 12 wants Texas. Yes the SEC is overrated but so much better than the PAC 12
Because UT has been flirting with the PAC 12 since the 1980's and visa versa. Very much like CU but CU's intentions of joining the PAC 12 was clear even if the Big XII survived. UT will only leave the Big XII if the Big XII no longer exist or no longer exist in a way that would be beneficial for UT.
UT has also flirted with the BIG and ACC. The chance of UT joining either conference looks slim at the moment.
How did this thread change from original topic to TX's future in the conference??
Because a Longhorn in this thread who apparently lives in California has a woody just thinking about Texas playing a third of their games in his state.
They correlate with each other. ISU wins and develops a decent program in the North and begins to take a bigger share of their market in Iowa, Minnesota and Eastern Nebraska then the Big XII has a better chance to survive
If Iowa St continues to be stuck in neutral, fire coaches who have to rebuild the program and either loses or does not gain market share then the chance of Big XII survival decreases.
Out of all universities in the Big XII I think only Baylor and maybe Kansas St face a longer uphill battle in joining another power conference if the Big XII falls apart.
UT would like the Big XII to stick together but if it cannot happen UT will jump ship without a thought about anyone except their university and state.
Correct me if I am wrong but don't the Omaha local television channels broadcast into Iowa.You ain't from around here, are 'ya?
CycloneErik
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Is this an accurate summary of the direction this thread has taken?
1. Texas douchebag shows up to educate us on the football.
2. Said genius forgets to leave when the game is over.
3. Said fool is now posting the same conference realignment crap we've all regurgitated and sifted through 19,000 times.
Is that about it?
1. Texas douchebag shows up to educate us on the football.
2. Said genius forgets to leave when the game is over.
3. Said fool is now posting the same conference realignment crap we've all regurgitated and sifted through 19,000 times.
Is that about it?
ISU can be like KU and stick their head into the sand and say the BIG will take us in. When the BIG did not even take in Mizzou.
I think ISU fans are smart enough to know the BIG for them is off limits unless University of Iowa bends over
CycloneErik
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Go read the millions of threads we've had on this topic. Then come back and say something original and interesting.
Why would any conference want Texas. They are a pain in the ass. The ruined the SWC, and almost ruined the Big 12. They are the biggest spoiled babies in college sports always wanting more and more from what ever conference they are in. When dealing with Texas it is all about Texas, and not the conference as a whole. You don't see USC, Baba, OSU, Michigan, FSU, and so on causing issues in their conference. They are great schools that form great corner stones for their given conference. Texas is always looking for a better deal.
I enjoy your narrative but I have heard it before from many different fan bases and is not entirely the truth.
UT's first conference was the SIAA. It was more of an association before the NCAA than a conference because it was a conference of about 60 different universities. The association split up into three different conferences: SWC, SEC and ACC to keep travel cost down.
Ole Miss and LSU were supposed to join the SWC but decided instead to remain with Bama and the SEC.
SWC survived for well over half a century and before professional football in Texas you would not have found a more perfect conference. Rivalries, Location, Popularity and Great Football.
Dallas gained a professional football franchise and the SWC was no longer the biggest show in town. It still remained revelvant with great football teams.
Fast forward to the 1980's. The Supreme Court ruled that a school and therefore a conference owns the media rights to athletics and not the NCAA. This created an arms war between conferences to produce the best product. Because the SWC was in only two states and the two states combined at the time may have had about 20 million people the SWC could not survive. Texas started looking around and negotiations began with the SEC. Other SWC got wind of these because of Arkansas and Frank Broyles so they used the Texas Legislatire to withhold funding if UT and then if UT and Aggy bolted. So the Piggies and South Carolina joined the SEC.
PAC 12 was next but Aggy was uncomfortable with associating with Liberal West Coast universities because of their military past and their East Texas fanbase. Plus you had Baylor and Ann Richards at this time.
So the Big XII was formed as a short term home. But because of population UT and the big Big XII schools could not share revenue equally and still compete with the universities in other conferences. In 96 Aggy and Nebraska agreed with this because they had great football programs
