Mackenro Alexander-Arrested for Assault

The ONLY way that what Alexander did is ok, is if he felt his life was being threatened and he was defending himself. That's it.

I don't care what anyone says to another human being, no matter what the insult, it is never ok to use violence. Just walk away and be a man. You need to be able to control yourself, no excuses.

I understand coaches wanting to wait until the true story comes out, but anything other than his life being in danger won't cut it for me as an excuse.

Maybe they were wearing Hawkeye gear.
 
Sounds to me like he knocked a fool out in a typical altercation. Then ***** slapped the fool's friend for threatening to snitch.

Not unreasonable.

Might not be unreasonable, but it's a prefect reason to kick somebody off the team.
 
I'm not so bothered that he hit a couple of guys, but the force at which he hit the two guys is disturbing. One was knocked out and required stitches. The other temporarily lost hearing. That part really bothers me and I am going to be disappointed if he is allowed back on the team.

If you hit somebody in the first place you don't "judge" the force. That is what it is.
 
I'm not so bothered that he hit a couple of guys, but the force at which he hit the two guys is disturbing. One was knocked out and required stitches. The other temporarily lost hearing. That part really bothers me and I am going to be disappointed if he is allowed back on the team.

I have a hard time buying the story. Temporarily lost hearing yet know he said he would threaten to kill him.

Truth is out there but that ain't it. And I'm certain he hit both of them and it caused some type of injury.
 
I'm not so bothered that he hit a couple of guys, but the force at which he hit the two guys is disturbing. One was knocked out and required stitches. The other temporarily lost hearing. That part really bothers me and I am going to be disappointed if he is allowed back on the team.

I disagree. The reason I disagree is that if he ends up justified, for some reason, to have hit these guys, I'm not going to blame him for throwing a hammer. By the sounds of things, it was one punch each so it's not like he jumped on them and continued. Whether or not it's justified is the key thing. For instance, if these guys were mugging someone it's not MAs fault that he hits hard when he's stopping something like that. I'm not defending it or saying it was justified. All I'm saying is that the damage done by one punch isn't of significance here for me.
 
Just my opinion, but you probably don't kick someone off the team for good unless he does permanent damage. College kids get in fights all the time. I'd say unless there was no provocation, you give him a 3-6 game suspension and make sure he runs extra and stays clean during that time. The kid was a walk-on who was probably going to see some snaps as a backup. It's not going to hurt ISU a ton if he never plays.
 
I have a hard time buying the story. Temporarily lost hearing yet know he said he would threaten to kill him.

Truth is out there but that ain't it. And I'm certain he hit both of them and it caused some type of injury.
I'm not understanding your post. If you damage an ear drum and temporarily lose hearing in an ear it doesn't make your other ear stop working. Are you thinking he was temporarily deaf?
 
I'm not understanding your post. If you damage an ear drum and temporarily lose hearing in an ear it doesn't make your other ear stop working. Are you thinking he was temporarily deaf?

Who made the determination? A doctor? Or the victim? What do we really know until all of the facts come out?

Again, to reiterate, I'm sure he is Guilty. It's probably all recorded. Just saying I'm not taking the story as gospel.
 
Dumbassery at 2:00 a.m., guessing neither side perfectly innocent and truth lies somewhere in the middle.

When you say neither side is perfectly innocent, what do you mean by that?

Because if it's just a couple guys taunting or yelling stuff at Alexander, then his response to that is TOTALLY unacceptable. Even if it went as far as racial slurs. You simply cannot hit +someone.... period. That is assault.

Now, if he felt his safety was in jeopardy, then that's self defense and totally different.

As Donovan and NWB just learned on their leadership trip.... E+R=O.... where E is the event that happens to you, R is how you respond to that event, and O is the outcome. As NWB correctly pointed out... "no matter what event is thrown at you, it is your response to that situation that determines the outcome."
 
When you say neither side is perfectly innocent, what do you mean by that?

Because if it's just a couple guys taunting or yelling stuff at Alexander, then his response to that is TOTALLY unacceptable. Even if it went as far as racial slurs. You simply cannot hit +someone.... period. That is assault.

Now, if he felt his safety was in jeopardy, then that's self defense and totally different.

As Donovan and NWB just learned on their leadership trip.... E+R=O.... where E is the event that happens to you, R is how you respond to that event, and O is the outcome. As NWB correctly pointed out... "no matter what event is thrown at you, it is your response to that situation that determines the outcome."
I know it's illegal to hit someone, but IF they were yelling racial slurs then I have no problem with him punching them. That said, who knows what led up to it. It's best to just let the facts come out before rushing to judgement either way.
 
I agree, if some dumb **** says racial **** or talks about my family id lose my temper. Not saying it's right but some things are better left unsaid.
 
I know it's illegal to hit someone, but IF they were yelling racial slurs then I have no problem with him punching them. That said, who knows what led up to it. It's best to just let the facts come out before rushing to judgement either way.

It doesn't really matter if you're fine with it or not. I certainly wouldn't feel bad for these two guys if that's what they did, but it will be the legal system and ISU's code of conduct policies that will determine all this.

As I said, if the Event is people yelling nasty stuff at you, and your response is to punch them, then you have to accept whatever outcome that produces, whether it be some jail time and kicked off the team or whatever the legal system and ISU decides.
 
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When you say neither side is perfectly innocent, what do you mean by that?

I mean people are going to shade what they say to present themselves in the best light possible. I doubt he randomly punched someone, but I don't know. I certainly don't condone it. I just think it takes a little while to get the full truth because people protect their own interests in what they say.

I expected Campbell to kick him off immediately. The fact he didn't makes me assume there is another side to the story that may still result in him kicking him off the team or some other punishment, but I trust him to make a good decision.
 
No matter what happened, he has to know as an athlete he has a target on him. I'm positive CMC has explained this to them. Being out running around late when drunk idiots are doing the same is exposing himself. Sucks either way.
 
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I mean people are going to shade what they say to present themselves in the best light possible. I doubt he randomly punched someone, but I don't know. I certainly don't condone it. I just think it takes a little while to get the full truth because people protect their own interests in what they say.

I expected Campbell to kick him off immediately. The fact he didn't makes me assume there is another side to the story that may still result in him kicking him off the team or some other punishment, but I trust him to make a good decision.

CMC knows Mackenro's character, that has to be a factor too.
 

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