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How are the Hawks still being considered for an at-large bid by some of these brackets? I just looked at a few and they are "in consideration". I don't know a single sane person who thinks they have a shot outside of winning the B10 tournament
 
The 2 main brackets I look at are ESPN and CBS Sports...no real reason but they're the ones.

Why is Wichita such a curious case? I know their non con didn't amount to much, but why such a spread between the prognosticators? Lunardi has them as a 7 and rising and Palm has them out altogether. Usually by this time guys will have different teams in and out but the grouping is much tighter. Nobody seems to be able to come to a consensus on them. I'm sure Marshall is loving it...he thrives on the underdog/no respect thing.

My guess regarding Palm's thinking on Wichita (and God only knows what goes through that dudes head when he builds his bracket) no big time wins. Garbage conference.

I would counter that with no bad losses and absolutely killed everyone in that trash conference. Avenged their worst loss by beating Illinois State by 41. I would have them in on the 8/9 line.
 
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How are the Hawks still being considered for an at-large bid by some of these brackets? I just looked at a few and they are "in consideration". I don't know a single sane person who thinks they have a shot outside of winning the B10 tournament

Have you seen the trash on the bubble? Have to get to 36 at large somehow.

The assumed thinking on Iowa is that if they run the table against Wisconsin and Penn State they would be 18-13 (10-8) with 5 Top 50 wins.

Win 3 more in DC against most likely 2 of the top 4 seeds and they would have 7 Top 50 wins and 21 overall.

I don't buy it but I can see the case being made as bad as the bubble is. Lose one time between now and the Big 10 Tournament final and they are toast for an at large bid.
 
Have you seen the trash on the bubble? Have to get to 36 at large somehow.

The assumed thinking on Iowa is that if they run the table against Wisconsin and Penn State they would be 18-13 (10-8) with 5 Top 50 wins.

Win 3 more in DC against most likely 2 of the top 4 seeds and they would have 7 Top 50 wins and 21 overall.

I don't buy it but I can see the case being made as bad as the bubble is. Lose one time between now and the Big 10 Tournament final and they are toast for an at large bid.
That would make sense. It makes about as much sense as Clemson on some lists when they were 4-10 in the ACC.
 
Yeah, Im not disagreeing with that although it's RPI is 12th out of 30 conferences. Im more impressed by the way they are winning games. Go look at their schedule, they are blowing everyone away.

They should be a lock for the tournament.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think they should be in. Just probably a 9+ seed, particularly if they don't win their conference tournament.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong. I think they should be in. Just probably a 9+ seed, particularly if they don't win their conference tournament.

For sure, I agree with you, I thought you were someone was saying they are a bubble team though. I dont see anyway they get left out unless they lose to Drake or something crazy this weekend.
 
Wichita State will get in, I admit I'm using vague historic measuring stick on that; Lunardi has it at 7, I'd go more 8/9. Palm seems way off having Wichita that close to the bubble.

LOL. Yes, WSU needs to be a 8/9 against KU 1 seed to set up another tourney clash since KU ducks playing WSU every year.
 
You arent impressed by winning every game by 20 points and a few more by over 40 points? There is no way Wichita State should be a bubble team right now.

I wasn't trying to say they shouldn't get in, I just don't think they're not that good. At least, compared to the past couple of years.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong. I think they should be in. Just probably a 9+ seed, particularly if they don't win their conference tournament.

Last time I looked on KenPom.com they were #10.

As a UNI alum and Panther fan who thinks Gregggg Marshall is a ginormous a $$ I hold no love for the Shockers, but I have to give credit where it is due. If they land on the 8/9 seed line they will beat their first round opponent by 20 and then at the very least throw a huge scare into the #1 seed, if not outright win. I absolutely do not want to see them opposite us in a 6/11 or 7/10 matchup.
 
Have you seen the trash on the bubble? Have to get to 36 at large somehow.

The assumed thinking on Iowa is that if they run the table against Wisconsin and Penn State they would be 18-13 (10-8) with 5 Top 50 wins.

Win 3 more in DC against most likely 2 of the top 4 seeds and they would have 7 Top 50 wins and 21 overall.

I don't buy it but I can see the case being made as bad as the bubble is. Lose one time between now and the Big 10 Tournament final and they are toast for an at large bid.


I agree with you assessment that they have a path that might get them back on the bubble.
Do I think they'll be able to do it? Nope.
 
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Last time I looked on KenPom.com they were #10.

As a UNI alum and Panther fan who thinks Gregggg Marshall is a ginormous a $$ I hold no love for the Shockers, but I have to give credit where it is due. If they land on the 8/9 seed line they will beat their first round opponent by 20 and then at the very least throw a huge scare into the #1 seed, if not outright win. I absolutely do not want to see them opposite us in a 6/11 or 7/10 matchup.

I haven't seen their games this year, but I'll be surprised if they beat a 6-8 seed by 20. They may be good, but they will be facing a level of competition that they haven't seen in a couple months. That does matter.
 
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How are the Hawks still being considered for an at-large bid by some of these brackets? I just looked at a few and they are "in consideration". I don't know a single sane person who thinks they have a shot outside of winning the B10 tournament

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I have a feeling that path will be rendered non existent by 10:30 tonight.

that's funny..I've got that weird feeling that they'll take down Wisconsin, and they'll be back in the 'distant' conversation, path still alive. Why? I've watched Wisconsin's last 4 games and they are struggling big time. Happ struggling, team is jacking and missing too many '3's', missing free throws, and definitely not guarding very well at all. That overtime narrow win at Rutgers was telling, and now they've lost 4 of 5. Iowa has plenty of big bodies to guard Happ or get him in foul trouble, and they're shooting much better than Wisc. Iowa wins this game, imo. But their metrics still are poor compared to other bubble teams.
 

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