Tech got in last year at 9-9 and played NOBODY in non con. We will be fine.
Will we make the ncaa tournament (PIG doesn't count)
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Tech was 10-1 in non-conference and has wins against us (#4 seed), Baylor on the road (#3 seed) and Oklahoma (#2 seed). We won't have as many quality wins unless we beat either Kansas or WVU on the road.
I thibk you have your own definition of quality wins. It's not the definition the committee uses.
I understand that but my point is that "good losses" carry a hell of a lot more weight than wins against dog **** teams. It's almost like fans want this team to miss the big dance do they can beat the Prohm sucks drum...
A good resource: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/groupId/8/teamId/66
Iowa is our worst loss by far and I expect them to be in the top 100 before year end. I also expect Vandy to be Top 50. That's not too shabby.
We have 2 top-50 wins right now, including a road win at #32 Ok St.
It's going to be ok.
Iowa is our worst loss by far and I expect them to be in the top 100 before year end. I also expect Vandy to be Top 50. That's not too shabby.
We have 2 top-50 wins right now, including a road win at #32 Ok St.
It's going to be ok.
You may be right. Just by virtue of who they play, it seems like it will make a move in the right direction, though.
Fairly aware that the committee's quality wins definition will include teams outside the Top 20. Do you disagree that if we finish 9-9 our resume will be worse than Texas Tech from a year ago. Just not sure how you think 17-13 gets us in even with a soft bubble. But you are on record that 9-9 will safely get us in.
I agree that good losses count as well. But you can't finish 17-14 and expect to be in the tournament because you went 9-9 in the Big 12. The conference is very solid but the middle of the conference didn't do itself any favors against the SEC this weekend.
Hopefully we get a great win against WVU on Tuesday and the resume concerns begin to diminish.
If we could get Iowa Top 100 that would get rid of any bad losses and getting Miami to Top 50 RPI would be huge giving us one decent non conference win and a neutral court one at that
They didn't have 4 non-conference losses either. 17-14 doesn't get us in. If you can find any time in history that record got an at large spot I would be shocked. That would also mean finishing the year 4-7 which wouldn't impress the committee as well as a super weak nonconference.
I think we have added more pieces then just Burton since 2013. The talent level isn't on par with the last three years but it certainly isn't NIT talent either. I hope Prohm continues to make strides with this team but to say that he exceeded realistic expectations and did "a hell of a job" by making the NCAA tournament is disingenuous
Michigan State got an at large in 2011 with a 19-14 record (finished regular season 5-8), and their only notable OOC win was against 7 seed Washington.
It was probably a reputation bid, but we've got a bit of a reputation ourselves, fwiw.
I went "no". I just can't read this team or predict them well enough to make much of a guess.
Keep my expectations low at this point, I guess.
Keep my expectations low at this point, I guess.
So when we win tomorrow are all the negative posters going to say "well we only have one good win and it was at home"?
Teams outside the Top 20? How about teams outside the top 10? Because that's what u are asking ISU to do in order to make the NCAA tourney right? Lets just take a look at the opportunities ISu has had etc:
KU- #1....Lost by 4
Zags- #2?....Lost by 2 on last possession
Baylor- #4...Lost on last possession
Cinnci #15...Lost on last possession
Iowa- Road loss
Vandy- Road Loss
TCU #49- Road loss.
So either ISU beats a Top 15 team or they are not making the NCAA tourney right?....No.....Aside from Cinnci at home almost rest of ISU schedule to this point is vs teams that are in that 35-100 range.... Now, ISU does have 4 other games vs top 25 teams but they are vs Top 10 teams..Playing a top 10 team at this point in season is alot different than playing a team ranked 23rd. NCAA Committee doesnt require you to beat a top 10 team to make the dance.
We will know more in the next couple weeks. This team will go in one of two directions - rally together and run off 5-6 wins in a row. OR fizzle out and turn down a NIT offer.
I am hoping that the seniors can give us one more run.
I am hoping that the seniors can give us one more run.
I think you overestimate other bubble teams when compared to our resume. Beating both Baylor and West Virginia at home would be more than enough to get us in and I would put us as 100% lock.
Even if we only get one of those wins, and finish 10-8, I would still put our odds over 90%. Now if we lost both and ended up in the 9-9 or 10-8 territory I would have major concerns. If we lost both of those games that means we cant have any slip ups against lesser teams though to make it to 10-8.
