Clemson vs Alabama

Someone brought up a good point. The last PI call that gave Clemson the ball at the 2 was incorrect.

Yes it was PI but they said it occurred in the end zone which means ball at the 2. It happened at the 1 or 2 yard line which should mean half the distance. Correct?
 
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Someone brought up a good point. The last PI call that gave Clemson the ball at the 2 was incorrect.

Yes it was PI but they said it occurred in the end zone which means ball at the 2. It happened at the 1 or 2 yard line which should mean half the distance. Correct?

I don't know if the rule changes within 10 yards of the end zone but PI is either 15 yards or a spot foul if under 15 yards, so whether it was in the end zone or on the 1 or 2 yard line the spot should be the same
 
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Someone brought up a good point. The last PI call that gave Clemson the ball at the 2 was incorrect.

Yes it was PI but they said it occurred in the end zone which means ball at the 2. It happened at the 1 or 2 yard line which should mean half the distance. Correct?

I don't think that's correct - if the PI is less than 15 yards it's a spot foul so I think they would have spotted it at the 2 anyway. I'm not 100% confident in that but I think that's how it would work.

edit: Buffett beat me to it - I think that's the way it works
 
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When there is defensive pass interference in an end zone type play, I think there needs to be a look at adding some seconds back on the clock at the end of games. If you are burnt on a route, why wouldn't you just commit the foul?
 
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Someone brought up a good point. The last PI call that gave Clemson the ball at the 2 was incorrect.

Yes it was PI but they said it occurred in the end zone which means ball at the 2. It happened at the 1 or 2 yard line which should mean half the distance. Correct?

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Remember a year ago when the national media went off on how amazing Saban was and that he was the best coach of all time?

Not saying he isn't one of the all time greats, but it's just funny how if that last TD by Clemson is dropped/overthrown ect the narrative would change that drastically.

More or less the exact same situation from the Patriots Seahawks SB. If the run the ball or the pick is dropped on the goal line the Russ is 2 for 2 in SBs, Carroll now has 2 rings, Tommy and The Hoody are 3 of 6 (just terrible) instead of 4/6. That was the first thing I thought right as that pick was thrown and as a Bills fan anything that could make the Pats look slightly not as great would have been optimal.
 
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I like how Watson admitted it was a pick on the winning touchdown in his post game interview. Not that it matters...everyone knows it was.

It was not. The receiver never "picked" anybody. I think he was going to, but the Alabama corner covering him grabbed him and basically tackled him to prevent him from setting the pick. If anything it should have been defense holding on Alabama.
 
In that situation at the end, is there a downside to just having the DB's basically tackle the WR's right away? Burn the clock, they get an untimed down but they most likely kick the FG to tie or have a win or lose play.

You give them the ball at the 1 yard line and maybe they decide to go for it. Or you try to tackle the receivers, but you miss and they get open anyway. The receiver that caught the TD was lined up off the line of scrimmage, I'm not sure Alabama could have held him even if they wanted to.
 
There were a handful of no call PI plays on Alabama that thankfully didn't become a huge deal, a few of them were negated by Clemson catching the pass through the uncalled interference. One was just an atrociously bad call in an otherwise decently officiated game.

Hardly any holding calls, can't even remember one...I can only imagine how many holding calls we'd get against these teams.

I couldn't believe how much contact Alabama DBs got away with throughout the game. We would have had 10 PI's called if we played that way.
 
I couldn't believe how much contact Alabama DBs got away with throughout the game. We would have had 10 PI's called if we played that way.
100% agree. Also after the plays they kind of still continued to "push" or "throw" the guys down.

Atleast twice, I would have booted Alabama players for targeting too.
 
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I couldn't believe how much contact Alabama DBs got away with throughout the game. We would have had 10 PI's called if we played that way.

The worst was the one Swinney rightfully exploded on. Tons of contact and Bama DB was never looking for the ball at all as the Clemson receiver was looking back for it. If SEC/Bama fans are crying about officiating it's pretty pathetic. Forced a punt.

Overall it was a decently officiated game, better than many, but if there's one gripe it's Clemson can gripe about PI calls.
 
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Best game that meant something in a long time.

But as good as the game was, the better entertainment was to had on the SEC network after that touchdown. Finebaum, McFarland, and whoever the old AL QB was were pretty calm, but then they took calls. The calls were fantastic. They make the Hawkeye call in show after an ISU over Iowa victory seem like Rhodes scholars. Maybe I just like to hear a good meltdown more than others.
Last year's championship was 45-40...
 
It was not. The receiver never "picked" anybody. I think he was going to, but the Alabama corner covering him grabbed him and basically tackled him to prevent him from setting the pick. If anything it should have been defense holding on Alabama.

The last play wasn't really a penalty, but Watson did call it a pick and clearly the intention was to pick the defender. The play earlier in the game was a penalty and should have been called as the reciever was clearly interfering with both defenders.
 
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The last play wasn't really a penalty, but Watson did call it a pick and clearly the intention was to pick the defender. The play earlier in the game was a penalty and should have been called as the reciever was clearly interfering with both defenders.

It's a smart play, regardless. Clemson is banking on the refs letting them play, which was a good gamble considering the way they'd been calling the game to that point. Plus, it was probably the last play of the game. Most times, refs are going to let all but the most blatant penalties go in that situation.
 
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The last play wasn't really a penalty, but Watson did call it a pick and clearly the intention was to pick the defender. The play earlier in the game was a penalty and should have been called as the reciever was clearly interfering with both defenders.
You can legally run a pick play if the receiver doesn't pick the defender himself but by his route maneuvers his DB into the other DB so he is picked by his own man. It is still a pick play. He tried to do that but was tackled at about the same time that the two DBs collided.