This week CFP rankings may have Ohio State and Louisville in the top 4 ahead of Clemson and Penn State. However, Ohio State and Louisville can both win out and not be in their conference championship games. Clemson is in if they win out, and Penn State is in if they win out and Ohio State beats Michigan.If this happens, it will be interesting to see how not having a 13th data point affects Ohio State and Louisville in the final standings.
Ohio State and Louisville - 13th data point
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If Ohio State beats Michigan, it's going to be interesting. If Clemson wins out, it will also be interesting. I think, if that scenario plays out, along with Washington winning out, you have two ACC teams in the playoff and is Washington loses to WSU, you will have to find a two loss team out of Michigan, PSU, Washington, and maybe even WSU because they will have momentum. Now, if Michigan, UL and Clemson all win out, this is pretty easy.
IMO Ohio State will get in with one loss even if they don't play in the Big Ten championship game. If it was, say, Maryland, in that position there is no way in hell they would, but it's Ohio State, so they will.
edit: to be clear, if Ohio State beats Michigan I definitely think they have a fantastic case for being a top 4 team, I just think if it was a non blue blood they would use the conference championship game as an excuse to screw them.
edit: to be clear, if Ohio State beats Michigan I definitely think they have a fantastic case for being a top 4 team, I just think if it was a non blue blood they would use the conference championship game as an excuse to screw them.
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Ohio State would be tough for the committee to keep out if they win their remaining games and don't get in their CCG. They would have one loss, which was a close loss on the road to a top 10 team in which they out gained and outplayed Penn State pretty significantly. They would also have Top 10 wins over Wisconsin, Michigan and Oklahoma and a 60 point win over a then Top-10 Nebraska.
Louisville doesn't have quite the case to plead, IMO, but would also be interesting to see. Huge beat down on Florida State and a heartbreaking loss to Clemson. Not much else on the resume.
In that case, I think it will end up being Alabama, Clemson (who will jump Louisville when they win the ACC campionship game), Ohio State and the winner of the B10 championship game. Best other hopes are Washington (although they could still lose again to WSU or in the P12 championship game or Louisville. If there's another weekend like last weekend, the winner of Oklahoma - WVU gets back in the conversation.
If Michigan beats Ohio State and loses the B10 championship game, then all hell breaks loose.
It will be a crazy couple weeks with a lot of controversy over the selections regardless of what happens.
Louisville doesn't have quite the case to plead, IMO, but would also be interesting to see. Huge beat down on Florida State and a heartbreaking loss to Clemson. Not much else on the resume.
In that case, I think it will end up being Alabama, Clemson (who will jump Louisville when they win the ACC campionship game), Ohio State and the winner of the B10 championship game. Best other hopes are Washington (although they could still lose again to WSU or in the P12 championship game or Louisville. If there's another weekend like last weekend, the winner of Oklahoma - WVU gets back in the conversation.
If Michigan beats Ohio State and loses the B10 championship game, then all hell breaks loose.
It will be a crazy couple weeks with a lot of controversy over the selections regardless of what happens.
The 13th data point only applies if there's a possibility of excluding a Big 12 team. If there's any chance whatsoever that Ohio State is on the bubble, the committee will get them in, regardless of any argument or rubric that's been applied in the past against the Big 12.
To be fair, I don't think it had anything to do with the Big 12 as a conference, it had everything to do with team brand. If Oklahoma had been in TCU's position they would have gotten in. So it's still ********, just a different kind!
I hope Louisville gets in. Those boys are fun to watch play football. I think the committee knows this as well and are just itching to get their Heisman Trophy Winner a chance at it.
Cyclonepride
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Can someone with a few hours of free time craft a scenario where Western Michigan gets in?
Ohio State bus drives off a bridge with no survivors. Michigan's offense is accused of terrorism and arrested en masse. Louisville loses rest of their games. WMU beats remaining opponents by 100 points/ game.
Pretty sure they'd get in along with Bama, Clemson, and Iowa.
Even with more carnage happening, I think that a 10-2 OU needs Ohio State to win the Big 10 to get the Sooners in the CFB. I haven't looked at everything with WVU, but I assume if they hit 11-1 they would certainly be tough to keep out, although probably needing a little help to get in though. Wouldn't be a slam dunk for WVU.
I'm also very curious what they do with Washington this week. That will tell us what they think of USC.
I'm also very curious what they do with Washington this week. That will tell us what they think of USC.
It won't matter if Ohio State has a championship game, it didn't matter when they had a home loss to a very average 6-6 team. They're Ohio State and it's the committee's reason for existing to put them in the CFP.
There was nothing wrong with the BCS ranking as it was, just that it was to decide a 2 team playoff instead of a more rational 4 or 8 team playoff.
TCU had a fantastic case, they were #3 and won their final game in a blowout.
It's nothing against Ohio State, it's just they have the luxury of losing to a crappy 6-6 team at home and still getting in while TCU can't lose by a point on the road to a top 5 team.
Here's a novel idea. 64 teams. 4 conferences. 8 divisions. Winners get auto bid. Playoff.
If this happens I'm taking credit as no one else has suggested this ever.
If this happens I'm taking credit as no one else has suggested this ever.
I've seen that a bunch of times.
I like 6. 1 and 2 get byes the week after the conference championships and 3, 4, 5, and 6 play games at 3 & 4s home field. Then you progress as it is except I would also have the semi's be home field games for 1 and 2. Here's the kicker. If 1 and 2 want, they can forgo their bye so that they can make that home game money. That bye is then awarded to the next best seed.
I really don't think they have a chance but it would be interesting if we end up with only three power 5 schools that have less than 2 losses. They'd probably put WMU #5 in that situation just as an extra kick to the nuts.
