So in the Olympics you don't get 1 false start? You are disqualified right away?
2016 Rio Summer Olympics
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So in the Olympics you don't get 1 false start? You are disqualified right away?
yep. I am not sure what the rule is for other international competitions. But in the Olympics if you false start you are disqualified immediately.
Yeah supposedly they changed it. I feel like they should do some sort of yellow card thing like soccer to bust habitual offenders. One false start shouldn't be a DQ.
Exactly. It was funny, I think during the 400 heats earlier in the meet, Sanya Richards Ross made the comment that there is no reason to try to jump the start of a 400 meter race. Then that guy didn't it in the 400 hurdles. The risk reward factor isn't there. I think this is part of the reason Bolt is so slow out of the blocks in the 100. There is no reward for him to try to jump the start or even be out at the gun. He is to fast. Everyone else is jumping the gun so he looks slow. But then he gets to the 200 and he gets out of the blocks the same as everyone else, and I am guessing that is because everyone else isn't as antsy to get out of the blocks for a a 200.
i remember watching when they wouldn't kick you out, they had way more false start offenses. The one and done is good keeps the races moving. I like the rule. If you get rid of the one and done, false starts will increase because if they can time it right there is an advantage to be gained.
In Championships (World, PAN Am, Olympics etc) the 1 and done false start rule is applied. In Invitationals they do not get DQ'd. Theory is the ticket holders paid money to come watch an athlete run and do not want to take a chance of a false start keeping someone out of the "Spotlight."
That's why I like a middle ground. If you get a false start you aren't immediately DQ'd, but set up some sort of system that evaluates if they are a habitual offender.
I don't think you can do that as it would be really subjective. How would you decide is a habitual offender and be fair to others? Also, track and field is not something where athletes compete in a lot of events. So there is a relatively small amount of data to collect.
I don't mind getting DQ'd from a race. 1) People try and time the gun giving an advantage to them. I would also support the gunner being more random in their starts. 2) We are talking about the best in the world. They should be able to handle no false starts when in the blocks.
Slightly related to false starts, but I am curious if there are "umpires" that watch swimming relays to make sure the next swimmer does not start until the predecessor touches the wall. I assume there would be, but I cannot ever recall any team being DQ'd for having someone leave early, yet it seems like something that could easily happen, even without cheating intent.
Yep they do, but I think they do it electronically. The US swim team got DQ'd at worlds, 2 years ago IIRC, and it was because the person that was going to touch did a glide at the end rather than another stroke while the next person up was expecting a quicker hit on the wall. They left like .1 (.01?) early and got taken out of contention after the race when they went back and reviewed it.
Found the video of the false start. Had to watch a few times and can still barely see where it occurs as it was so close to the gun sounding.
Like was stated earlier, I think they can check with the clock electronically but I just had assumed that is what the event staffer that is standing at each lane was there for to ensure that there were not any false starts. I could be wrong though.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I know it used to be that each person was allowed a false start and then the 2nd false start was a DQ. Then it was changed to the entire field got 1 false start and the 2nd was a DQ no matter who it was.
I think the field getting 1 free false start would be a little better of a situation unless it would lead to too many issues of a runner intentionally getting a false start to try and get a competitor out with the 2nd false start.
I think the field getting 1 free false start would be a little better of a situation unless it would lead to too many issues of a runner intentionally getting a false start to try and get a competitor out with the 2nd false start.
That's why they created the rule. To get rid of gamesmanship. You could have someone who is great at starts do a false start. Then the next person would get booted, so people might sit back a little and the good starter might then have more of an advantage.
Agree. The old rule that allowed the field to have one false start just creates an incentive to try and guess the gun. If you catch it right, advantage. If wrong, no penalty.
