Random Thoughts VIII: The Ocho

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Peter Joseph Lenne: A garden journey in the Rheinland

The landscape architect and Prussian general garden director Peter Joseph Lenne (1789-1866) shaped the garden culture like no one else. Characteristic of the way he formed the gardens are virtuoso pathways, terrain modelling, and the creation of relationship of sight (that was a weird word). Thereby he managed to create the ideal of the Rhenish landscape where he spent his childhood and adolescence.

The second part just talks about how long the exibit will be up and that they want to thank certain people.

I got through the first sentence ok and then I needed to break out the dictionary

Yeah, that's about as far as I got as well. I understand more than I speak, but I really don't have much vocabulary any more. :)
 
No, it's cool. And I'm fully aware that my position is a very extreme position to take. That's why I'm not overly concerned about trying to convince people otherwise. Just trying to show a different viewpoint, that's all. And I agree with Hungus, it's not black and white by any means. It's hard to say a human life is always most valuable when we as a human race have no problems killing our own. What does that say about us?

TBH - I root for the bulls...
 
This is absolutely untrue. If you had to choose between a robber and your pet?

I honestly don't know if I could actually kill another human, and I hope I am never forced to make that decision. But yeah, if someone was going after my cats, I would defend them. To what extent, I honestly don't know.
 
This is absolutely untrue. If you had to choose between a robber and your pet?


Sorry, should have been more clear. In a situation where the choice is killing an animal to prevent injury to a human without other mitigating circumstances. In the stated scenario, I'm suspecting the mitigating circumstances would be that the robber represents a threat to me. Now, if you're saying the robber is attacking my dog? No, I would not kill the robber to protect my pet. Myself, yes...my dog, no.
 
No, it's cool. And I'm fully aware that my position is a very extreme position to take. That's why I'm not overly concerned about trying to convince people otherwise. Just trying to show a different viewpoint, that's all. And I agree with Hungus, it's not black and white by any means. It's hard to say a human life is always most valuable when we as a human race have no problems killing our own. What does that say about us?


Well, one thing it says is that we, as a society, have devalued human life by equating it in value to animals.
 
Well, one thing it says is that we, as a society, have devalued human life by equating it in value to animals.

Sure, depending on your beliefs. I just feel it's a bit altruistic to just automatically assume we're better just because it's our species. But again, it all comes down to personal feelings. Neither side will likely every be able to convince the other side any differently.
 
As one high school friend said on FB today. "Today I learned that the two most popular occupations are Zoologist and Responsible Parent."
 
Thought I was going to get pulled over twice by the same cop on my way home tonight.

She pulled a 180 on the road I was on and started following me before speeding off ahead with no sirens. And then the same thing happened later on a different street.
 
Sure, depending on your beliefs. I just feel it's a bit altruistic to just automatically assume we're better just because it's our species. But again, it all comes down to personal feelings. Neither side will likely every be able to convince the other side any differently.

No, our species isn't 'better', our species holds a special place as a significantly more intelligent species, and in no way is that 'personal feelings'.

http://www.livescience.com/33376-humans-other-animals-distinguishing-mental-abilities.html

Whether you want to say that's by design or random chance, we are the only species that would be intelligent enough to 'take care' of the other species and the planet. I think you think I'm being purely religious here, but even if you take creation out of it, implying that humans are only minutely different from other species does a disservice to the value of human life.

Put it this way, you can't put human and animal lives on equal value footing, yet also stratify values of certain human lives over others, which you're quick to dismiss those you deem to be below you in intelligence or belief as not having value. You can't say certain human lives have little value then lament that we kill each other out of the same type of devaluation.
 
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